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To: Ilaine who wrote (132264)	8/13/2005 7:11:40 PM
From: D. Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793778

You're the one that went off on a Posse Comitatus kick in response to the article, not me. No one is calling for imposition of martial law, or whatever it is you've set up as a straw man. In response to a catestrophic terrorist attack on the US, the President has Article 2 power, bolstered by Congressional Act, to take whatever measures necessary to respond to the national emergency. That's risky, but that's the law - that's the War Powers, that's the President's Article 2 powers. If you doubt the extent of that power in wartime, you need only look at Lincoln's exertion of Presidential power during the Civil War. Or Roosevelt's for that matter. The plans drawn up by the military are really fairly pedestrian compared to what the President could authorize in such a situation. Derek

To: Ilaine who wrote (132264)	8/14/2005 10:21:13 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 793778

A straw man isn't the opening gambit in an argument. Actually, FYI, it can be in certain contexts. I was first introduced to the term in the context of system or policy design and used it that way for decades. Its best application is as an intentionally vulnerable first draft--to give team participants something more than a clean chalk board to start with, to get the ball rolling. I always used the term that way on SI until I realized that others were using your definition. So I think the confusion over it is legitimate. "Decision making A "straw-man proposal" is a simple draft proposal intended to generate discussion of its disadvantages and to provoke the generation of new and better proposals. As the document is revised, it may be given other edition names such as "stone-man", "iron-man", and so on, etc." en.wikipedia.org