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To: creede who wrote (144)	8/14/2005 1:23:07 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 334

Intelligent design huh? So how do you explain diseases, mosquitos, birth defects, natural disasters, iguanas which can swim, microscopic life which adapts quickly to its surroundings in order to survive? What, blame Satan for all the flaws? Convenient, but what the hell is Satan? ANy evidence Satan exists? Nope. You might as well teach that storks deliver babies. Creationism is nothing but an ancient myth. Every ethnic group of ancient men had their creation myths. Those myths don't answer any questions. They're just a big question mark. What created what when? God? Osiris? Jupiter? All the other Gods, or just the more modern God? What is God? And if God was so concerned about man why doesn't God ever stop wars, pollution, genocide or corrupt politicians? What about the other billion planets and stars? And if God has planned all this craziness then he's either AWOL or makes no sense. Uh uh. Man does what man does and science explains almost everything else. And man is genetically not that different from a dog or an ape. Genetics are proven. Darwinism is proven. Life evolved. There are very few things about the evolution of life on earth which Darwinism cannot explain in plain logical English. The Garden Of Eden is a myth, rewritten and censored many times over the centuries. So the whole concept of original sin is just a fabrication. As is the virgin birth. And there is no hell or heaven. What there is is the human conscience and reaping what you sow. Justice or karma. But sometimes there is no justice. In the end, there is just death. You're dead. So far, not a shred of scientific evidence there is anything after death. If there is, it is unknowable. So why pretend you know? Just enjoy your life as best you can and be a good, honest and loving person. That's all there is. Love is the best of it. That's why jesus made sense. Because he taught love. But even love dies. Everything ends. At least in terms of anything we can comprehend. But defend what you love, including nature, which we are part of, not apart from. Without nature we die.

To: creede who wrote (144)	8/14/2005 9:22:18 AM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 334

P.S. Bush & Cheney's relationship with God is not for us to judge. But we can judge a tree by it's fruit. And if the fruit is pain and death and corruption and greed then that's legitimate to judge them by it. And what's a homosexual from an escort service doing visiting the white house over a hundred times? Then as you say he does something that appears good. It's a contradiction. But wouldn't a wolf in sheep's clothing occasionally have to do something "good"in order to appear to be a sheep? I have been studying The end times for decades and as a result of my research I became familiar with the Bush family history and it's strong ties to the New World Order long before W became president. So it's not hard to see what Bush does as a furtherance of the NWO because I know what I am seeing. Most people don't though and they are "pacified" by the corporate owned media. Sure it's still good to be American and everyday life is great for us. That will eventually change though. They were saying peace and safety and then came sudden destruction. On your pre-trib rapture ideas I am sorry you believe that. Most Christians believe it only because they have been told to and maybe read a book. I have a short study posted here and I encourage you to take a look at it and be objective. For warned is for armed. If the devil is trying so hard to deceive us to believe pre-trib rapture then there must be a reason and it won't be good for us. If you can look at my study objectively you'll see there is no pre-trib rapture. Read the links too. Message 21570951