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To: Elroy who wrote (245899)	8/14/2005 6:55:59 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574786

Elroy, re:Referring to the situation in Iraq as a "war" covers up facts #1 and #2 which seem pretty important to resolving the situation over there. Spot on - well said.

To: Elroy who wrote (245899)	8/15/2005 11:41:54 AM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574786

Bush gets away with lots of things that sound patriotic by describing them as part of some nebulous "war" effort. It makes people opposed to the situation in Iraq sounds anti-patriotic, and it makes parents with kids in Iraq feel as if their children are engaged in something similar to what the military went through in WW1, WW2 and the Korean war, whereas the reality is extremely different. You are preaching to the choir...if calling this a non war helps us come "home with honor", then by all means. I imagine one reason for the declining support for US troops in Iraq is precisely because there is no war going on; rather, its American troops acting as targets for religious fanatics and loser Baathist holdouts. There is no way the US military "wins" in that situation since 1) they can't locate and destroy the "enemy", 2) the "enemy" needs to be brought into the mainstream through inclusion in the Iraqi political process, and the US presence hinders rather than helps that inclusion. Referring to the situation in Iraq as a "war" covers up facts #1 and #2 which seem pretty important to resolving the situation over there. The decling support comes from deteriorating conditions and lack of progress. There is one thing you said, i don't know if you meant it, with whih I agree, and that is that we can't win this non war. The good folks are beginning to come to the same conclusion. Al