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To: Alighieri who wrote (246173)	8/16/2005 10:08:40 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1583410

The United States no longer expects to see a model new democracy, a self-supporting oil industry or a society in which the majority of people are free from serious security or economic challenges, U.S. officials say. I recall many posts exchanged with DR and Tench on this topic... Come on, the jury is still out, regardless of what some editorial article says. Take a look at Iraq in ~2010, then see if you were right or wrong. If the US's pre-invasion predictions of success in 6 months were completely innaccurate, the above quote could just as well be completely removed from the reality that will eventuall surface. The key question is will whatever eventually surfaces in Iraq be better or worse than 20 more years of Saddam followed by 20 years of Uday?

To: Alighieri who wrote (246173)	8/16/2005 11:38:31 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1583410

The United States no longer expects to see a model new democracy, a self-supporting oil industry or a society in which the majority of people are free from serious security or economic challenges, U.S. officials say. I recall many posts exchanged with DR and Tench on this topic... And they still don't believe its true. They will never admit that they were wrong and that Iraq is a disaster. They are the ones responsible for so many of the US's foreign policy disasters and they are everywhere in the gov't. They are the ones pushing for star wars when the tech. is not there; they are the ones bolstering the defense industry so that its drooling money; they are the ones undermining gov'ts that don't meet their rather unAmerican approval; they are the ones who never discuss things out in the open but rather operate behind the scenes. ted