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To: one_less who wrote (39055)	8/18/2005 3:40:52 PM
From: Carolyn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

You do have a point.

To: one_less who wrote (39055)	8/19/2005 2:45:45 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 90947

IMO, it's a lose-lose situation anyway you slice it. We already see how no response is being spun. I think the Bush Admin knows that there is a radical, vocal minority out there that is completely impervious to civil, reality based discourse - heck, look at SI if you want a prime example of their existence. They know their attitudes are already rigidly fixed. No amount of rational discourse & sound logic backed by credible evidence is going to change these attitudes to one that remotely reflects reality. They also know that these folks respond to such discourse with increasingly outrageous public acts showcasing their mendacious calumny. The Bush Admin knows full well the MSM & DNC will gleefully showcase any response in a highly distorted fashion (just like they always do) by empathetically presenting the kooks & sanitizing their calumny into a credible act of dissent against the {insert baseless conjured negative here} response by the Bush Admin. They know full well any response will be presented as a major PR disaster by the Bush Admin. Besides, if they attempt to publicly deal with Cindy Sheehan, they know they will only be met with more kooks from the fringe making more outrageous assertions demanding their 15 minutes of fame. ...."There are now Casey camps springing up across the country. Once people move to that kind of radical position their attitudes become tempered steel, and the energy is contagious. I am worried that the opportunity to diffuse the extreme rhetoric with sound reason is slipping away."

To: one_less who wrote (39055)	8/19/2005 5:20:31 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 90947

On August 17, 2005, MoveOn.org and other political action groups organized a series of candlelight vigils across the country in support of Cindy Sheehan and her ongoing protest in Crawford, Texas....... zombietime.com ******* Projecting -- Jayson PoliPundit.com The left-of-Pravda Associated Press. << 'Peace Mom': Spearhead of Peace Movement? >> So, there are 1,600 “peace vigils” going on around the country, eh? With, what, a hundred or so (paid) protesters a pop? That would add up to about half the number of people who sat under the hot sun and watched the Indy 500 last May. Mmm, hmm. “Slim minority.” On the other hand, and as I’ve said before, I’m always heartened whenever “librule” college students, trust-fund anarchists, angry boomers, and assorted types of perma-malcontents, are out and about, protesting this, that, or the other thing. The economy must be so good, those people don’t even need to work! UPDATE: Thread baron, Scott in CA, reports that yesterday’s “peace vigil” in Berkeley drew “about 60 people.” For Pete’s sake, when I attended Berkeley, Larry Blake’s – a local bar! – drew twice that number on any given Thursday night. And thread baron, RobD, gave us an LGF link with photos of the Berkeley vigil. Um, does anybody still want to contest whether modern-day leftism should be listed in the DSM as a mental disorder? polipundit.com news.yahoo.com zombietime.com