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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill who wrote (107508)	8/19/2005 10:39:59 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I find it quite peculiar that anyone would argue that our mission was simply to bomb Iraq until Saddam was out of power and then leave. I don't remember that being your stated position when this mess started. I remember you being rah rah Bush all the way, and in support of very violent treatment of detainees held in violation of international law, as well. Why would we have to detain thousands of people if we were going to just turn tail and leave? I don't think we would have gotten a majority of Senators to support a bombing then leaving campaign, it is not at all what Bush proposed when he went into Iraq, and I believe there are international laws against simply ousting a sitting, recognized government and leaving a people in bloody chaos. I think you are suggesting that because you have finally realized we have made a huge mess and that none of Bush's goals for a western-style democracy were ever achievable. I don't find your position as you have stated it logical or defensible. I really am still having trouble even assimilating that this is your position. When Bush said we would bring the Iraqi people food and medicines and supplies and freedom, he certainly didn't accomplish that. The International Body Count committee has confirmed over 25,000 civilian deaths in Iraq, anarchy and freedom are two totally different concepts, we have closed hospitals in violation of international law, depriving citizens of medicines, the infant/child mortality rates are way up, about 65% of Iraqis are now unemployed, the power grid is in much worse shape than when we landed, etc. Can you tell me how all of that jibes with Bush's promises to the Iraqi people?