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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (246776)	8/21/2005 1:40:36 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571366

re: That you continue to stand behind, despite the racism and the mean-spiritness you show and continue to show even today. Be specific, Straw Man. re: As for Korea, you've got some nerve demanding gratitude from me, especially since you didn't sacrifice anything. I have gratitude, and I show it to those who served. I sacrificed a close family friend. Maybe that doesn't count to you, but it was very important to me. It was the first time I understood the meaning of death. re: Since you are for the draft, you obviously must be for fighting in a war you totally disagree with, or at least sending other people's sons and daughters just to force them to be anti-war. Highly hypocritical of you. More from Mr. Straw man. re: But hey, you hate the fact that people continue to enlist for a guy you consider to be the worst president of your lifetime. So since you can't trust them with a choice, you're going to force everyone else to not have a choice. That doesn't make any sense. re: Admit it, you only support a draft because you hate Bush. I hate war, and I especially hate frivolous war. And that's why I support the draft, and real time taxes to pay for real time wars that kill real time kids. My position is that if we go to war, we better be God damn certain we are 100% right. On the other hand, you support volunteer soldiers for the lower classes, and credit card wars; you support EASY wars. There is an irreconcilable difference in our perspective. Is it nationality (Oh my God I may not have been PC when I said that!!!). Go ahead... call me a racist, again. John

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (246776)	8/21/2005 1:56:30 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571366

You fully support the war--- but you are against the draft Since you are for the draft, you obviously must be for fighting in a war you totally disagree with, or at least sending other people's sons and daughters just to force them to be anti-war. Highly hypocritical of you. I figured someone like you who lived through Vietnam ought to be one of the biggest opponents of the draft. But hey, you hate the fact that people continue to enlist for a guy you consider to be the worst president of your lifetime. So since you can't trust them with a choice, you're going to force everyone else to not have a choice. First, most of them didn't sign up for Bush.........and if they did, that does not make it alright sending them into a war for the wrong reasons; fighting a kind of war they are not prepared to fight and experiencing environmental hazards that screw with their health. Secondly, you can go on and on about the draft but I think the point that JF is making is why should the lower classes solely be fighting a war started by the upper class? If this war is so important to America, why are the upper classes not sending their progeny to fight? We all know what the answer to that question is. In the day, it would have been considered very unAmerican. Now its accepted by many including you. And frankly, that smells. Thirdly, you accuse JF of emotional outbursts as if that were not normal when in fact, given what's going on with this country, it is very normal......particularly if you love your country as JF does. And lets not forget how much you try to bait people on this thread with your ABB commentary as if that's the crux of the problem and were everyone to stop hating Bush everything would be fine. You know that's not true. As for the Korean part.......the implication that you should be more grateful because of your heritage......I don't agree. I don't think JF's comments were intending to be racist but I don't think you should be any more grateful than the rest of us. I may be missing something but I have always thought of you as an American first, a Korean second.......as I am an American first, and a European second. In fact, the thought never came up for me until you two started arguing over it. Consequently, if the Korean War should not have been fought, then I think we as Americans are all culpable, not just you. But I sure would like to blame you if I could. ;~) ted