To: Jack Rayfield who wrote (7712 ) 8/21/2005 3:13:32 PM From: naturalperson Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 8117 I've been referred to as a newcomer so often by the same people, even though I correct them over and over, they dont listen, so I have decided to just go along with those that know it all, I'm a born again new comer to make them happy : ) Now for some real facts, the reason the old-timers want to educate the newcomers with all the facts is simple to see, they have been holding this stock for so long and now we ( New Comers : ) come along and buy in, being all nieve of course, and we'll get the same rewards as they got, without all the years of bad times that they cant stop talking about, and we get to be positive about the stock and enjoy our way to profits and rewards, so Jack, tell me again who doesn't get it... I dont think you guys even listen to yourselves or you would have dumped this stock a long time ago. The facts are that Pyng sales are increasing at a fantastic rate Q over Q, year over year and this other information goes against the core facts meaning it is not sufficent to draw conclusions on no matter where it came from, Yes, it is good information but all the other comments are just assumptions, speculations and smoke.... because all it says is that the US military bought less than the year before according to that source and that report, nothing more, nothing less, but if it is true then that means pyng not only picked up the slack of the decreased US military sales but it also increased sales over and beyond the US military sales, thus pyng is actually in a better position because it has broadened its customer base. The old-time holders are still in only to be vindicated, both financially and intellectually, they want to show that they know more about what is going on than anyone and made after all of these years a good investment and stuck it through. At the same time they want to be the voice of Pyng on this board over and above anyone who has come into this stock just when things are getting good, but they are so use to being losers with this stock that they want the negative discussion to persist, so any facts they do get are slanted into a negative spin always, and that is the real debate here, why negative? Your Answer, because MJ can not be trusted. The bottom line is that even if you guys are dead on right, it still does not make sense as to why you are holding the stock unless you are here because you have an axe to grind. GRIND GRIND GRIND AWAY, life can really be so much happier and easier if you just sold and moved on to a company that you do like and trust. Ouch! the truth hurts dont it? Why would anyone hold a stock or be a partner in a business if they did not trust the other partners, especially one where they can get out at anytime. No smoke here, just the facts Jack.