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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (133616)	8/21/2005 7:54:20 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794223

"Cut and run" is not a realist position. How to Become a Leader Powerline Nebraska's Senator Chuck Hagel has become a vocal critic of the Iraq war. Today he said that the United States is losing in Iraq, and Iraq is like Vietnam. The Associated Press reports: A leading Republican senator and prospective presidential candidate said Sunday that the war in Iraq has destabilized the Middle East and is looking more like the Vietnam conflict from a generation ago. But wait! What exactly makes Chuck Hagel a "leading Republican senator"? Not seniority; he is a second-termer. Not any official responsibilities; Hagel is not a member of the Senate leadership, nor does he chair a Senate committee. Not legislative accomplishment or influence; Hagel has little noteworthy legislation to his name, and is more often an eccentric voice--e.g., in his call for reinstatement of the draft--than an influence on his fellow Senators. It is hard to escape the conclusion that for the Associated Press, any Republican who attacks the Bush administration and claims that we're losing in Iraq is automatically promoted to "leading Republican senator" status. And "prospective presidential candidate"? Not as a Republican.

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (133616)	8/21/2005 7:59:43 PM
From: MrLucky	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 794223

I will have to disagree with you on whether Hagel is a "realist". Today, he talks about Iraq being another VN; that we are losing the war and that we don't have an exit plan. He doesn't talk about what needs to be done to win; what he believes would be the correct exit plan (since he disagrees with Bush)or whether winning this war in Iraq will help to stabilize IRAQ. So far, he is doing precisely what kerry-edwards-clark did pre election. Lotsa chatter with no specifics. Hagel said we needed several hundred thousand more troops before invading Iraq in order to defeat hussein. He was wrong. In June, he said Gitmo should be closed. Nice. He doesn't tell us what he would do with the prisoners. S'pose we could install them in Leavenworth. IMO, Hagel needs to give us something more than sound bites.