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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (68005)8/23/2005 12:43:21 PM
From: Joe S Pack  Respond to of 74559
 
Maurice,
You put it nicely. I don't know how much deep Slagle traveled in each of those countries he (Slagle) quoted. I will give an example of why those countries don't see those many so called "foreigners". Those countries are there for thousands of years and it was not a recent colony like USA where he lives. USA is a country of recent immigrants. Somehow he now forgets that very basic observation.
But my main point was about "other people" in ones comfortable country, state, county/district or city. If you go to India it is like a mini Europe. You step out of your state you are like in a different country because of language differences. For example, Chennai is the capital of Tamil Nadu but you find more people from Andhra (speaking Telugu), from Kerala (speaking Malayalam) and other parts of India. Same is true even in a medium size city like Coimbatore where it is dominated by people migrated from Andhra and Kerala. Similary if you go to Bangalore there are lot of Tamilians, if you go to Bombay you will find lot of Gujarathis and so on. So if I am a Slagle type I am not sure whether I will be an Indian or Tamilian or Andhraite, Keralites or Gujarathi. Where does this so called nationalism start? Why not go farther than nationalism? Languageism, Castism, racism, and so on... and we may soon start SIism, Yahooism, Googlism, Hotmailism, Skypism and so on.
The later are a better "isms" than the older "isms".

-J6P



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (68005)8/23/2005 2:47:19 PM
From: Slagle  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
Maurice, Re: "nationalism" If you can't see the vast difference in the nature of the demographic trends in a place like say France or New Zealand and what has happened in China or India and most of the rest of the world then there is no way I can explain it.

Just one simple stark example should help. In China, during the decade of the 1950's and 1960's when the place was the worlds most populous nation with nearly a billion souls there was only ONE SINGLE SOLITARY AMERICAN in the whole country. JUST ONE, and he survived and later came back to the USA and wrote a book about his experience; THE MAN WHO STAYED BEHIND. Now there are a few more there, tourists and expats and a few technicians and businessmen. But there will NEVER be any significant number there.

I realize that the Chinese have different origins and speak many differnt languages, ditto India, Indonesia, Philippines,even Mexico ect. But all those peoples have been there since antiquity.

Take India, ruled by the English for hundreds of years. Now tell me which Indian State has a majority population of English origin. Or even which Indian State even has even a significant English or European population. None of them do, of course. Out of the billion Indians how many Europeans? A mere handful.

Take the Philippines, an American colony for 45 years and a place that has an extremely fond memory of the American colonial era and even has a small "statehood" political party even after all these years. The American permanent resident expat community numbers less than 2000 people, and this in a country of maybe over 100 million (the Filipinos, like many third world places provide the UN with phony population statistics to keep the UN "population control police" off their backs <g>).

Here is the truth; Europe and a few other places have had such a flood of immigrants while at the same time swallowing the globalist "Brave New World" propaganda hook line and sinker that these places have literally "lost their soul" and have become a demographic and cultural wasteland. But these nations have been hoodwinked, for the rest of the world IS NOT following suit. In fact, the populous and rapidly growing parts of the world are not assimilating at all, and never will in a meaningful way.
Slagle