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To: Elmer Phud who wrote (169816)8/24/2005 12:33:57 PM
From: Joe_PRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
It seems to me that you put heavy emphasis on demonstrations.

The demos do show that there is a working part and working platform, but that doesn't reflect in any way how long it will be until it goes for sale.

How long did Intel demo 90nm parts before they had 90nm product for sale?
How long did AMD demo 90nm parts before they had 90nm product for sale?

Maybe I missed it, but I don't even remember a 90nm product demo from AMD.



To: Elmer Phud who wrote (169816)8/24/2005 12:42:54 PM
From: ParanoidRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
I think you mean working AMD silicon, so if we extend your logic and notice that no working anything has been shown by AMD on 65nm, what would you conclude?

Working silicon != volume product. Years ago Intel demonstrated working 4GHz Northwood silicon then claimed the architecture would definitely scale up to 4GHz, and yet Intel still has no commercial 4GHz parts after all this time even after the core was redesigned. So your fixation on working silicon does not definitively prove anything.



To: Elmer Phud who wrote (169816)8/24/2005 1:45:36 PM
From: Reseller MikeRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Elmer:

That they keep pretty good secrets? :)

Mike.



To: Elmer Phud who wrote (169816)8/24/2005 2:03:51 PM
From: PetzRespond to of 275872
 
<<So working silicon is no guarantee of imminent product.>>

<I think you mean working AMD silicon, so if we extend your logic and notice that no working anything has been shown by AMD on 65nm, what would you conclude?>

So, let's see,

Elmer posting on Yahoo does not guarantee that Elmer is smart.

No Elmer posts have been demonstrated on Yahoo.

So we conclude Elmer is not...

Either your logic is faulty or Elmer ...

Petz