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To: DavesM who wrote (698019)8/25/2005 12:51:55 AM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Here's my take on that. While we're there, we're preventing the Shia, the Sunnis and the Kurds from settling their hash in a natural way, through civil war. By being there as an occupying power, we lend creedence to the foreign jihaddi's argument that we're just there to fuck the Iraqis out of their oil. The Sunnis are natural allies of the foreign jihaddis, but some of the Shia see us a occupiers as well. Only the Kurds are completely happy with us being there.

I think if we left, much of Iraq would become a Shia Islamic state, probably aligned with Iran. The Kurdish area would become a new Kurdistan. The Sunni would either have to join with the Shia, or become refugees in another Sunni country. Neither Shia Iraq or New Kurdistan would allow Al Quiada to operate from their territories. Things would be LESS threatening for us than they are now. The "war tax" on oil would decline. Americans wouldn't be getting killed. We wouldn't be pouring a billion dollars a day down a rathole.

All the arguments you put forward were put forward in somewhat different versions for Vietnam too. We left, the world didn't end, all that ended was a wrong headed war that was much harder on the Vietnamese than us. I hope by 2008 only an anti-war candidate has a hope of winning. I'll even vote for a "secret plan" from a Republican!



To: DavesM who wrote (698019)8/26/2005 4:52:03 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Respond to of 769667
 
Eh?????

Zarqawi is a Sunni extremist.

I doubt he'll be popular in the Shi'a areas of the country anytime soon --- especially the way he has been blowing up their mosques.

Not too popular with the more secular Kurds, either.

So, what in Hell makes you think that Zarqawi is going to be 'taking over' the country?