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To: Slagle who wrote (68095)8/25/2005 8:25:30 PM
From: arun gera  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
Slagle,

It is not racism that I am talking about. It is your failure to empathise with the humanity of the large number of people in India and China.

>And places like the USA are the most at risk from such a deluge. For the most part India is already "full" and this tends to limit in bound migration.>

What about 25 million people being added every year? More than the population of Australia.

And what about the shift from rural to urban areas? That shift has already migrated over 100 million in one generation.

Do you realize that a man from Uttar Pradesh working in Mumbai is about 30 hours away from his family? A european in USA is only 8-10 hours away. The former spends about 1 month salary to get home. The latter spends at the most a quarter of a month's salary.

-Arun



To: Slagle who wrote (68095)8/25/2005 8:31:30 PM
From: arun gera  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
>And I suppose that under the Brits you had absolute freedom of movement region to region within the British India colony. >

Are you implying that before the British one could not move around from one region to another? Movement of people within the Indian subcontinent has been allowed from time immemorial. Have you heard of the Kumbh mela? Every few years for hundreds of years, millions come for pilgrimage from all parts of India.

-Arun



To: Slagle who wrote (68095)8/26/2005 4:28:45 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 74559
 
Slag, the whole world is assimilating, or miscegenating, which is not to say it's turning into a homogenous swarm of clones, like the mindless Chinese who are all identical in their thoughts, [unless they aren't "real" Chinese as Yiwu the Mad and Bubba the Bigot claim].

Contrary to what Yiwu the Mad claims, "Chinese" aren't a culturally or genetically identical flock of mindless sheeple who get their ideas from Hu Jintao. Neither are Indians homogenous.

You are trying to draw racist lines around two billion people but you will find the lines are very blurred. Neither are they culturally cloned, in case you get slippery and go for the cultural claim. Hang on a minute, you called me "slippery" you naughty name-caller. But calling somebody slippery isn't as good as calling somebody racist, [or their arguments if we get pedantic].

Note as Arun pointed out that brown people also move and they upgrade from worse to better as best they can. So people move from Bangladesh to India, India to Europe, Europe to USA. Similarly, they move from China to NZ and from NZ to Australia and Australia to USA.

After they've made their stash, lots move back out to their cultural roots [aka homeland] but getting a big enough stash to be independent isn't common, so most migrants stay moved.

Mqurice

PS Note second usage of "racist" and again, not in a name-calling illiberal way. That's 2:0 to me.