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To: Grainne who wrote (107733)	8/26/2005 12:49:46 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 108807

It is impossible to imagine the U.S. watching Europe be taken over by Hitler without stepping in. Why? It's perfectly possible for me to imagine. What national interest was so vital as to be worth the hundreds of thousands of American lives that the European (and African) theaters cost us, not to mention the huge amounts of money siphoned out of our economy? It's easy to say you can't imagine it. But that's not an answer. It's just avoidance. Of course, if you have no answer, avoidance is inevitable.

To: Grainne who wrote (107733)	8/26/2005 2:45:54 PM
From: J. C. Dithers	Respond to of 108807

It is impossible to imagine the U.S. watching Europe be taken over by Hitler without stepping in. I just saw this. You don't have to imagine it, you just need to know history. As Hitler was overrunning Europe from 1939 to 1941, the American public was dead set against intervening. The "America First" movement was powerful in the country, led by Charles Lindbergh, America's darling hero and a great admirer of Hitler and National Socialism. Lindy believed Hitler was unstoppable. Most politicians in the U.S. believed Britain had already lost the war, most notably Joseph Kennedy, our ambassador to the U.K. Surely you MUST have learned something of this history in school. You must know that public opinion not only was against intervention in a "foreign war," but even against giving any help to Great Britain is its desperate struggle to survive. That is why FDR contrived the idea of "lend-lease" wherein the U.S. would "lend" Britain some aged destroyers, and we would receive territorial grants in this hemisphere in return. This was the occasion of FDR's analogy of "lending a garden hose to your neighbor whose house is on fire." Even this was controversial and a hard-sell to a public which wanted no part of the European war. You like revisionist history, so you must be aware of those that claim that FDR knew of Pearl Harbor in advance, or even that he caused it deliberately. That is preposterous, but the one shred of truth to it is that only a devastating sneak attack like that could have enabled FDR to bring the U.S. into the war. I must say I am surprised at you for making the statement I quoted above. It can't help but to bring to mind the quote that "Those who are ignorant of history are condemned to repeat it."