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To: energyplay who wrote (68126)8/26/2005 1:56:39 PM
From: Slagle  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Energyplay Re: "Mexico" Right you are, that is Mexico in a nutshell. Or Philippines or whole bunches of other similar places.

Mexico is really the perfect example, though. A big beautiful country with vast wide open spaces, just like the USA. And an oil exporter! And very minimal expense for a military, heck I don't even think they have an air force. But on the other hand, life there is pretty good, even for the poor folks in most places. Lower stress, tropical climate and surrounded by your own family and clan.

Being married to a Filipina we know bunches of her people here in this country and over the years many of them have gone back home, saying life here is too hard. Nobody there works really all that hard and the 12 hour factory shifts here they don't have over there. I know several who worked in these carpet mills, usually creeling. Creeling is hard work, 12 hours at a shift loading these 12 pound yarn packages on a triple layer creel. These North Georgia gals who have been doing it since high school can handle the work, but for the Filipinas they just don't have the endurance to handle the job.

Now the lefties will blame it on the USA. But it hasn't been that long ago when there was almost no commercial contact across the border and it was screwed up then too. In those days, say back in the 1950's or 1960's whose fault was it?
Slagle



To: energyplay who wrote (68126)8/26/2005 3:50:57 PM
From: shades  Respond to of 74559
 
elites there want to keep things in the state of semi-disaster to keep wages low

They had Ravi Batra on CNBC today on greenspans fraud - he was being Toasted instead of Roasted - hehe. He said greenspans biggest failure was that all these companies have money - but wages have not went up - 75% of the people are not keeping up with wages while 25% are living la vida loca and this was a terrible failure.

moneycentral.msn.com

Why a booming economy feels flat

The statistics point to vibrant growth and more jobs. But that’s not showing up in paychecks, and worries about housing and oil tend to overshadow positive news.

By The Christian Science Monitor

Think back to the last time the American economy was rapidly rolling forward: output growing more than 4% a year, millions of new jobs were created, and unemployment on a downward slope.

Yes, the 1990s was a golden economic era. But the description refers to the performance that began last year.

Despite continued strong economic growth, this expansion is clouded with enough complications and uncertainties that, for many, it doesn't feel like good times.

The reason? A boom in corporate profits has not yet created a job market that makes workers feel secure, economists say. Hiring hasn't skyrocketed. Worse, wages are stagnant. This paycheck squeeze may prove more worrisome than soaring oil prices and concerns over a housing bubble. Some experts worry that wage stagnation may prove more permanent this time, because of an increasingly global market for labor.

Few economists claim that today's economy matches the late 1990s, when unemployment was lower and job numbers seemed to rise as easily as the Dow Jones Industrial Average ($INDU).

There are real differences -- higher oil prices are just the most obvious. But the current expansion is also occurring against a backdrop of worries.

Profits come before wages
The pace of job growth, for one thing, was almost imperceptible during two years of concern about a "jobless recovery." Now that the economy has some momentum, the financial press is focused on threats to consumer well-being, such as the burden of energy costs and a soaring real estate market.

"Surveys show that even though the economy is growing reasonably strongly, a lot of households don't feel that," says Nariman Behravesh, chief economist at Global Insight in Lexington, Mass.

He points to two key reasons. First, since the last recession ended in November 2001, job growth has been weak until last year, when the Labor Department's employer survey showed a gain of 2.2 million jobs. Second, wage growth has been lackluster, despite strong gains in worker productivity.

Normally, as employees are able to produce more in each hour of work, the result is greater cash flow that can be divvied up between workers and owners or investors. In the long run, rising productivity means rising wages and living standards.

But in the short run, "most of the gains in the economy have gone into profits rather than wages," says Behravesh.

The latest numbers from the Labor Department, in fact, show average weekly earnings for U.S. workers have fallen by 0.5% in the past year, after adjusting for inflation.

An anomaly or the new reality?
The divergence between productivity and wages has sparked a debate among economists. Some say the gap is temporary and will narrow as the labor market tightens and workers get more leverage to bargain. Others worry that it's a sign of new realities in the global marketplace that are pushing down U.S. wages as workers compete with increasingly educated rivals in places such as India, China and South Korea.

Whichever view proves more valid in that debate, many Americans are feeling the combined pinch of slow wage growth, jobs that still aren't as plentiful as many would like, and a stock market that's snorting pretty softly for a bull.

Only 37% of the public thinks the national economy is in good shape, according to a June poll by the Pew Research Center poll. That's higher than two years ago, but down from 2004. Perhaps more ominously, the percentage of the public rating their own financial situation positively fell to 44%, down from 51% in January. Sixty percent say jobs are too scarce in their community.

Some common surveys of consumer sentiment show less gloomy results -- sitting not far from their long-term averages. But even professionals come to mixed answers as they try to assess the health of the current economy.

"It's hard for me to see this as a good economy," says Dean Baker, codirector of the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington. "It's doing better than it had been," but given that the nation went for four years without creating any jobs to speak of, "we have a lot of ground to make up."

Some more optimistic
By contrast, the glass is way more than half full to Brian Wesbury, an economist at Claymore Securities. He's expecting the nation's output, or gross domestic product, to grow about 3.8% this year, and about the same next year, after last year's gain of 4.2%. All those numbers are impressive, in the sense that they are above the level that most experts say is sustainable over the long term without sparking inflation.

"There's been a significant rebound," Wesbury says. "I've been very confused by the coverage" in the media, with its focus on gas prices and alleged housing bubbles. For many economists, those concerns are real, but not necessarily as frightening as recent headlines might imply.

Thanks in part to rising efficiency, energy costs represent only about 3.3% of household spending. That's up only a bit from its 1990s average. To many, the real worry is if oil prices jump further and remain at $75 a barrel or beyond, a scenario that may not occur.

Growth: Then and now
Annual change in key indicators 1998 2005 (est)
National output (GDP) 4.2% 3.7%
Inflation 1.5 3.1
Job growth (payrolls) 2.6 1.7
Real disposable income 5.8 2.2
Other benchmarks
Unemployment rate 4.5% 5.1%
Consumer sentiment index 104.6 93.6

Source: Global Insight