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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: steve harris who wrote (41949)8/27/2005 10:25:10 AM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Conversation with a lefty:

To: paret who wrote (247724) 8/27/2005 9:57:45 AM
From: John Fowler Mark as Last Read | Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 247734

Just noted you are peoplemarked by 8 and ignored by 75. Ever wonder why?
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To: John Fowler who wrote (247725) 8/27/2005 9:59:12 AM
From: paret Mark as Last Read | Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 247734

Because I NAIL the lefties in their lies and they HATE that. LOL

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To: John Fowler who wrote (247718) 8/27/2005 10:00:29 AM
From: paret Mark as Last Read | Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 247734

You offer leftie NY TIMES Bush-Hater Maureen Dowd?

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To: John Fowler who wrote (247729) 8/27/2005 10:04:50 AM
From: paret Mark as Last Read | Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 247734

Lefties like John Fowler squeal like a stuck pig when you nail them.

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To: paret who wrote (247727) 8/27/2005 10:06:21 AM
From: John Fowler Mark as Last Read | Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 247734

re: You offer leftie NY TIMES Bush-Hater Maureen Dowd?

Don't you just love her? So clever, honest, nice looking woman. Lot's of experience covering the Bush family.

You don't feel threatened, do you?

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To: paret who wrote (247731) 8/27/2005 10:10:56 AM
From: John Fowler Mark as Last Read | Respond to of 247734

re: Lefties like John Fowler squeal like a stuck pig when you nail them.

OK, now I get it...

You are up to 76 ignores. Congratulations! _______________________________________________________

To: John Fowler who wrote (247732) 8/27/2005 10:13:24 AM
From: paret Mark as Last Read | Respond to of 247734

Now lefty John Fowler brings up the tired "religion" of the mindless lefties--their beloved psychiatry.

When a lefties like John Fowler can't handle a subject, they immediately revert to pathetic "attacks" in the form of hurling "epithets" from their beloved "religion," psychiatry.

"Are you threatened?" is one of the most common ones.

Others are, Are you paranoiac? etc etc etc.

You just nailed YOURSELF, Lefty John. LOL.

I bet your psychiatrist is proud of you.


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Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)



To: steve harris who wrote (41949)8/27/2005 11:02:24 AM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
The Plot Thickens in Crawford
By JB Williams MichNews.com Aug 26, 2005

The anti-America anti-war movement sponsored by leftist groups like MoveOn.org, fronted by new anti-Bush poster-child Cindy Sheehan may be spinning out of control. Nuts have a way of drawing other nuts out of the woodwork and here they come…

60’s peacenik mom Cindy Sheehan started her anti-war anti-Israel rant back in March of 2005 in a letter to Nightline, almost a year after her son Casey was killed in action in Iraq. She has been camped outside President Bush’s Crawford Texas ranch for weeks now, becoming an international spectacle, demanding a second meeting with the President to tell him what she didn’t tell him in her first meeting. As if the President or anyone else on earth hasn’t already heard her political rhetoric.

Proud parents of fallen soldiers for whom Cindy Sheehan and MoveOn.org do not speak, are now in Crawford removing theirs sons and daughters signs from Cindy’s mock cemetery. They rightfully refuse to let Sheehan’s anti-Bush movement dishonor the sacrifices of their loved ones and they are rightfully shouting down those who seek to undermine the mission of our best and brightest still serving in combat.

But the plot is about to thicken even more as White Supremacist from Stormfront.org begin to make their way towards Crawford in support of Sheehan’s anti-Semitic statements. Stormfront.org members claim to be the original opposition to the war, based solely on their hatred of Jews and their belief that this war is only about defending Israel.

White Supremacists are staging a rally of their own in Crawford this weekend, joining the anti-war media circus, but also trying to take the spotlight back from Cindy Sheehan and MoveOn.org, who they say “hijacked their issue”.

As the world looks on, they are about to get a glimpse into not the best, but the worst America has to offer. They are about to get a clear look at our own homegrown extremists. Those united only in hate, against America, against our military and against this President, but otherwise divided among themselves.

As America’s best give all on the battlefield abroad, America’s worst congregate in Crawford Texas, demonstrating in their efforts to dishonor our fallen heroes, only that not all Americans, not all free ideals, are worthy of defense. Some are quite indefensible and the clash of American extremists, launched by Cindy Sheehan and fueled by leftist organizations and leftist press coverage, threatens the peace in a small country town in Texas.

Even worse, it has caused proud grieving parents of true fallen heroes to feel they need to defend their heroes at home, just like they did during Vietnam. It is unforgivable…


But what is most unforgivable in this entire sordid tale, is that all of it, every bit of it, is the result of completely bogus irresponsible anti-Bush lies and hate-speech designed to undermine this administration in an effort to regain Democratic political power in the next two election cycles. Nothing is more important to today’s democrats, not even the lives of our soldiers, whose mission they undermine daily.

Because of their hatred for the current administration, proud parents will defend the honor of their lost loved ones in a face off against the extreme left element in America on one side and White Supremacists on the other, both of whom hate everything America has ever stood for, and everything these proud parents sacrificed for.

These proud parents will be forced to defend those who volunteered to defend us and the leftist American media loves every minute of it. MSNBC’s Chris Mathews calls Cindy Sheehan the voice of every American mother, yet she is not even the voice of her own family.

Mathews read from a Sheehan family letter, "The Sheehan Family lost our beloved Casey in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan Family supports our troops, our country, and our president, silently, with prayer and respect. Sincerely, Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins."

Even the Boston Globe, not known for its slant to the right, can’t help but point out Sheehan’s underlying political motives. Her high school sweetheart husband has filed for divorce and still, the anti-Bush organizations and once mainstream press champion her cause as though it is some mainstream anti-war movement in America.



It has clearly become nothing more than another anti-Bush movement, guided by leftist political organizations and Democratic Party strategists angling for the next two election cycles, propped up by a leftist anti-Bush media and Hollywood socialists like Michael Moore. The American people should be totally fed-up and disgusted!



Our fallen heroes and those still on the battlefield deserve far better and so do their parents, now defending their honor in Crawford Texas against the likes of a few 60’s radicals and now White Supremacists.



The Democratic Party, the once mainstream press and the Cindy Sheehan’s of this country should be ashamed. They won’t be, but they should be.



As for the rest of us… Well, we have been voting people like this out of office for the last four election cycles and clearly, we still have a lot of work to do in the next few elections. We better stay focused, informed and involved because God help this country if people like this are ever allowed to run this place…






To: steve harris who wrote (41949)8/27/2005 1:02:33 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Sheehan's radical views little noted
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 26 August 2005 | Dave Kopel

Cindy Sheehan claims the media are "a propaganda tool for the government." A New York Post editorial (Aug. 16) argued that Sheehan's statement was self-evidently false, given the overwhelming and almost exclusively positive media attention paid to her in the last several weeks. But in a broader sense, Sheehan has a point: Almost all the news stories and columns in Denver dailies, like the vast majority of the rest of the mainstream media, have failed to inform their readers about what Sheehan really thinks.

The night before Sheehan began her Crawford, Texas, vigil, she spoke at the convention of Veterans for Peace (transcript at www.veteransforpeace.org).She told the crowd about a sympathetic e-mailer who warned that her profanity offended "people on the fence."

In reply, she argued that anyone who supports the war should "get your a-- over to Iraq." Everyone against the war should "stand up and speak out. But whatever side you fall on, quit being on the fence . . . we have to get this country off their butts."

In other words, Sheehan's use of inflammatory rhetoric is an important part of her communication strategy. Yet even as the mainstream media has fawned over her campout, it has neutered her message, refusing to print her statements which are intended to get people off the fence.

For example, on Aug. 16, Sheehan held a media conference call during which she declared "The person who killed my son, I have no animosity for that person at all." Yet her statement was reported only in the National Review Online weblog. In an interview with Mark Knoller of CBS News, she explained that the foreigners who have to come to Iraq to battle the U.S. military are "freedom fighters." (Video at the anti-war Web site dc.indymedia. org/usermedia/video/2/cindyon bus.mov). Conversely, she described last January's vote in Iraq as a "sham election," in her Tuesday entry on her weblog on Michael Moore's Web site (http:// michaelmoore.com/mustread/ index.php?id=465).

Sheehan hopes that her strong words will get people off the fence, yet the mainstream media fails to report them. And until Friday's profile in the Rocky Mountain News, the only Denver daily articles to quote Sheehan's provocative words at even modest length were editorial page columns in the News - two by Mike Rosen and one by George Will, for a grand total of four paragraphs' worth of quotes. The Denver Post continues to shield its readers almost completely from Sheehan's fiery language and radical policy beliefs, as did a 25-paragraph profile of Sheehan in Friday's News.

In an Aug. 16 interview with Chris Matthews on Hardball, Sheehan explained that the invasion of Afghanistan was just as wrong as the invasion of Iraq, and she would be equally angry if her son had died in Afghanistan: "Why do we send in invading armies to march into Afghanistan when we're looking for a select group of people in that country?" Yet the news stories in the Denver papers never mention her belief about the immorality of the Afghanistan war.

Sheehan has explained that the real global terrorist problem is the United States. Speaking at San Francisco State University on April 27, she announced, "The biggest terrorist in the world is George W. Bush." Rebuking people (such as the Post editors who created the "Portraits of Valor" series) who claim that serving in the military is patriotic, she stated: "I'm going all over this country telling moms: 'This country is not worth dying for.' " She denounced the idea that soldiers should "defend this morally repugnant system we have." (Transcript at www.discoverthenet work.org/Articles/Stewartrally. htm.)

At the Veterans for Peace rally, Sheehan called George Bush a "lying bastard" and a "maniac." She showed her path to peace: "You get America out of Iraq and Israel out of Palestine and you'll stop the terrorism." (The Crawford "Peace" House, which Sheehan has used to coordinate her protest, has a photo on its Web site depicting "Palestine" as including the entire state of Israel. That Sheehan urges the extermination of the Jewish state does not necessarily mean that she is anti-Semitic; there are some extreme-left Jews who agree with her position.)

In an Aug. 11 blog conference call, Sheehan stated, "Thank God for the Internet, or we wouldn't know anything, and we would already be a fascist state." Even if one does not entirely agree, the last several weeks do show that that the mainstream media sometimes mislead the public by refusing to print statements that sharply challenge the status quo.

Dave Kopel is research director at the Independence Institute, an attorney and author of 10 books. He can be reached at davekopel@RockyMountainNews.com.



To: steve harris who wrote (41949)8/27/2005 1:20:43 PM
From: AurumRabosa  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
The US murdered 2 million people in Vietnam, almost all were innocent civilians. I agree with you that President Bush's war in Iraq is becoming another Vietnam War quagmire.



To: steve harris who wrote (41949)8/27/2005 5:53:33 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 93284
 
Vietnam is a perfect example of why we need to get out of Iraq. The country was no real threat to us. We got caught in the midst of a civil war we didn't understand. The open borders made it unwinnable. And we made more enemies than we made friends by our heavy-handed imperialist approach. Yes we did some good things, but the policies are flawed and doomed to failure. And that has nothing to do with the troops.

The US military needs to come home, rest, heal, regroup and be used for much smarter and more limited operations. They can also be used to fortify our southern borders which are wide open. Why are we paying for and manning the rebuilding of Iraq? Only because Bush lied to us and made a huge blunder. We're not stuck there. We can start leaving at any time.