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To: SI Dave who wrote (71)	8/28/2005 2:45:34 PM
From: Solon	Respond to of 115

"Our objective is to make it an environment where there is "something for everyone"." That is a silly objective. The whole point of all this discrimination is that there is a preference for law and order and reasonable discourse. "You want to argue for "free speech"? Forget about it; that's a constitutional obligation of the Federal government -neither private enterprise nor individuals have any obligation to extend or protect "freedom of speech" rights to others." I wasn't talking about "obligation", Dave. There is already far TOO much of that nonsense here. But "freedom of speech" is not such a bad idea as a matter of choice--IS IT?? You DO have that choice here--RIGHT?? What is better? Freeedom of speech? ... Or Galileo begging forgiveness on his old knees??

To: SI Dave who wrote (71)	8/31/2005 4:40:13 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 115

"You don't want to use Ban or Ignore? So be it." I don't want OTHERS to use them. They downgrade SI. "You want to argue for "free speech"? Forget about it; that's a constitutional obligation of the Federal government - neither private enterprise nor individuals have any obligation to extend or protect "freedom of speech" rights to others." It is not about OBLIGATIONS. It is about being fair, decent, and above board. We all know that free expression is for the good. And we know that free expression has been circumscribed after thousands of years of experience-->b>and THAT is good. And we know that people do not get to express this freedom when mental midgets (not you) PREVENT them from exercising their personal preference (something you believe is the "best solution"). Sp apparently you would like to see people express their personal opinion and preference? Can you make it happen? You have 90% of SI on your side because they are sophisticated people overall. I think the greatest personal preference is the desire to be seen and heard. It is your personal preference. It is mine. It is every preference of every person on SI. When you know what motivates people you can help them meet their goals...

To: SI Dave who wrote (71)	8/31/2005 4:40:58 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 115

"You don't want to use Ban or Ignore? So be it." I don't want OTHERS to use them. They downgrade SI. "You want to argue for "free speech"? Forget about it; that's a constitutional obligation of the Federal government - neither private enterprise nor individuals have any obligation to extend or protect "freedom of speech" rights to others." It is not about OBLIGATIONS. It is about being fair, decent, and above board. We all know that free expression is for the good. And we know that free expression has been circumscribed after thousands of years of experience--and THAT is good. And we know that people do not get to express this freedom when mental midgets (not you) PREVENT them from exercising their personal preference (something YOU believe is the "best solution"). Sp apparently you would like to see people express their personal opinion and preference? Can you make it happen? You have 90% of SI on your side because they are sophisticated people overall. I think the greatest personal preference is the desire to be seen and heard. It is your personal preference. It is mine. It is every preference of every person on SI. When you know what motivates people you can help them meet their goals...