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To: Win Smith who wrote (107812)8/28/2005 4:45:47 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 108807
 
This fellow doesn't remember the problem "science" had with the big bang theory, which after almost 100 years is now accepted by all in the scientific community. For decades after Hubble originated it and Einstein accepted it, "scientists" defended the steady state theory because the idea that the entire universe had a beginning and came into being at one point in time and space sounded way too much like creation.

Fortunately for physicists, there is no powerful motivation for such a band of mischief-makers to form. They don't have to spend much time persuading people that quantum physics and Einsteinian relativity really have been established beyond all reasonable doubt.


Sure we don't know the details - which turn out to be extraordainarily complex - but trust us, we can design a computer model which could explain things:
We can't yet say what all the details of this process were, but real eyes representative of all the intermediate stages can be found, dotted around the animal kingdom, and we have detailed computer models to demonstrate that the creative process works just as the theory says.

It can't be designed because I wouldn't have done it that way, he says:
No intelligent designer would put such a clumsy arrangement ..
Now me, I wouldn't have created snakes. But that's just me.

Actually there are "reputable scientists who advance theories just like the examples he holds up as silly below (and some that are sillier - like the Gaia hypothesis) and the overall scientific community has no problem with those theories. They are as untestable as intelligent design (or natural selection itself) but they can't reasonably be used to support the idea of a g-o-d so we don't see articles in the NY Times attacking them.

consider an imaginary hypothesis of intelligent design that could explain the emergence of human beings on this planet:
About six million years ago, intelligent genetic engineers ..
....
SO get in line, intelligent designers. Get in line behind the hypothesis that life started on Mars and was blown here by a cosmic impact.



To: Win Smith who wrote (107812)8/28/2005 11:07:46 PM
From: Grainne  Respond to of 108807
 
One of the logical problems with intelligent design is who designed the designer? It just pushes what came first back further in time in my opinion.

And also, sort of related, why could there not be an intelligent designer who decided to use evolution as his design methodology? It is brilliantly effective, after all!