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To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (40302)	9/3/2005 5:44:36 AM
From: get shorty	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Heh, talk about spin... My first first post on this subject specifically stated: This catastrophe has been greatly exacerbated by the large number of people that chose to ignore the mandatory evacuation order. I'm not talking about the old and infirm. I'm talking about able bodied men and women that chose to "ride it out" for whatever reason. Those same people are now sopping up resources that should be going to those unable to fend for themselves. But of course let's ignore that statement, because if we don't we're left with the people that stupidly (your word) stayed behind, and that's not nearly as poignant is it? There's been an entire confluence of events that have contributed to this unmitigated disaster; they begin with the actions of some of the victims, include a less than spectacular response by local authorities, and continue all the way up the chain of command, perhaps to the very top. That said, any other examination of the sequence of events that contributed to loss of life, other than the myopic, obsessive focus on Bush and FEMA is unacceptable. Worse yet, it's spun into stuff like this: Yer right, forget all these people, they're imbeciles and deserve to die a hellish death at the hands of their government!

To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (40302)	9/3/2005 7:49:20 AM
From: Tradelite	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 306849

I'm a little surprised at such an uninformed post from you, patron. Did you not see from Day One of this disaster the U.S. Coast Guard helicopters lifting people off rooftops in flooded New Orleans? Do you think those Coast Guard guys (paid with YOUR tax dollars) were having fun? Your claim of people dying at the "hands of their government" sorta tilts the wrong way. Maybe you did not also see the pre-hurricane interviews by Fox cable TV with two stupid people---one of whom decided to not evacuate the French Quarter because he "had a lot of pets to take care of", and the houses in the Quarter had stood there for many years without incident, so he figured they would survive this coming event. Wonder how he and his pets are faring now with no electricity or water for the forseeable future. And then there was the crazy New Orleans tourist from NYC who said he thought riding out the impending hurricane would be an adventure and noted (wrongly) that the last disaster in New Orleans was "the Titanic in 1969, and people lived through that so I figure I can, too". Really amusing how the Fox interviewer handled that statement, noting that the Titanic sinking occurred somewhat BEFORE 1969 and warning the guy that a CAT 5 hurricane is about as bad as it can get, so was he sure he wanted to do this. Would like to know where the NYC guy is now.