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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (68399)	9/5/2005 9:10:32 PM
From: Slagle	Respond to of 74559

Maurice Re: "atheists" Facts are facts Maurice. The all time champions in mass murder also happen to be the only nations in all of history which proclaimed atheism as the state religion. Coincidence? Not entirely, if you accept Trotsky as an expert. Sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. <g> Slagle

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (68399)	9/5/2005 9:59:44 PM
From: Slagle	Respond to of 74559

Maurice Re: "Libertarian" Are you sure that you don't mean to say "libertine" instead? <g> I was a member of the Libertarian Party (LP) and was pretty active, going to statewide conferences and working in campaigns and I don't ever remember us having an "atheist wing" of the LP. The LP made common cause with Christian conservatives on many issues. We sided with conservative Christians on the issue of school prayer, for instance. The reason was that the LP opposed federal government involvement in local matters on constitutional grounds. The LP was by no means an anarchist party but instead wanted a restoration of constitutional government as created by the Founders. Thomas Jefferson is the primary hero of the LP. The LP was also a very practical minded party with a real program with which to govern (the US Constitution) once in power. The LP would not have lent support to anyone who made public statements against religion, especially the Christian religion. But Americans in general don't have the fear or hostility toward the Christian church that is common in Europe. We never had a state religion and have never had religious wars like Europe. And here the church is broken up into a thousand sects and the sects tend to "police" each other. So maybe that is why that Americans, even those who may not be churchgoers, tend to view the church in a positive way. Look, if it originated in Europe in the last 200 years it is probably a bad idea. God, what a record; Jacobinism, Bonapartism, Marxism, Socialism, Kaiserism, Bolsheviksm, Fascism, Leninism, Nazism, Stalinism and MANY more. Help in the form of ideas from there we don't need. Slagle