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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (68400)	9/5/2005 1:34:20 PM
From: shades	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

<But the Euros would probably have had their assets confiscated, which is some disincentive to normal people to remain in any particular place. > Asset Confiscation - I have attended a few money conferences - the gubbment was trying to get all these small businessmen to do thier dirty work for them on catching the guys that clean money - from what I heard at the bar, most didn't feel very compelled to do thier masters bidding. CAFRA was not making these guys happy. look what the MAN had to say about confiscation in the USA: thememoryhole.org The Forfeiture Documents That the Justice Dept Wanted to Destroy "Select Criminal Forfeiture Forms" (Acrobat format, 7 megs) "Asset Forfeiture and Money Laundering Resource Directory" (Acrobat format, 2.7 megs) "Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act of 2000 (CAFRA)" (Acrobat format, 5.5 megs) "Selected Federal Asset Forfeiture Statutes" [part 1] [part 2] (Acrobat format, 6.6 & 7.3 megs) Left-click to open Right-click to save the file to your hard drive Mac users: Control-click to save the file (for moo) >>> Federal Depository Libraries house tons of documents published by the US government. Several times a year, a federal agency asks these libraries to withdraw and destroy material on its shelves. In half the cases, the reason given is that the material wasn't meant to be released, that it's for "internal use only" or "official use only." [learn more] On 22 July 2004, the Justice Dept—via the Government Printing Office—told libraries to destroy five documents on asset forfeiture, a highly controversial practice in which the authorities take people's property. (Sometimes the people have been convicted of crimes; other times they haven't even been charged with a crime.) [Learnmore] The order said: Please withdraw these materials immediately and destroy them by any means to prevent disclosure of their contents. The Department of Justice has determined that these materials are for internal use only. Unlike all the other times an order like this was issued, some librarians, libraries, and the American Library Association put up a fight. The Justice Dept's request was met with widespread derision online, and the mainstream media picked up the story. In the face of this unexpected resistance, the Justice Dept backed down eight days later. By that time, many libraries—eager to do the government's bidding—had unhesitatingly burned these public documents. If a few parties hadn't raised hell, the material would be out of public circulation forever. The Memory Hole has obtained the sensitive documents that the Justice Dept wanted to destroy. They've been scanned and posted above. One of the documents on the burn list—"Civil and Criminal Forfeiture Procedure"—was sent to libraries on microfiche and isn't currently available here. When we get a paper copy, we'll post it. For more information, check out these Memoryblog entries: Justice Dept Instructs Libraries to Destroy Forfeiture Documents Boston Globe Picks up Story of Justice Dept Yanking Docs Justice Dept Backs Down From Document Destruction Order

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (68400)	9/6/2005 2:54:40 PM
From: Slagle	Respond to of 74559

Maurice Re: "not in prison" Here is a place the Google is useful but I always like to have "date stamped" material of some sort to make sure the online info is accurate. <g> I knew who Rewi Alley was but as the books I have that reference him were printed in the 1930's and 1940's I was unaware that he had remained there long afterwards. He was a friend of American writers Edgar Snow and Vincent Sheean who were roaming around China from the 1920's on. Snow's 1941 Battle for Asia is almost a Rewi Alley biography, complete with poetry. But Alley apparently knew Rittenberg well and warned Rittenberg well in advance to "watch his step". Apparently it was only after Alley had been there for decades that he threw in with the communists, after 1942 when the Nationalist government removed him from his position with the Indusco Cooperatives, which he largely created. He is an interesting character, for sure. Slagle