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To: i-node who wrote (249548)	9/5/2005 12:56:55 PM
From: 10K a day	Respond to of 1574002

It doesn't really matter who u "THINK" is responsible. Who is ultimately responsible is the deep pocket that gets sued for all of the wrongful deaths. And i can tell u the city is going to just declare BK and the ambulance chasers will hav to go after some other deep pocket. End of story.

To: i-node who wrote (249548)	9/5/2005 1:05:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1574002

David, When the history of this event is written, the failure of communications infrastructure will be THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON this disaster was so bad. I'm coming to this conclusion myself. However, I don't share your view that this problem is just confined to the city. This truly does reach all levels of government. On the other hand, how come Florida didn't have such problems, even when they got hit with last year's triple-whammy? Tenchusatsu

To: i-node who wrote (249548)	9/5/2005 1:07:58 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574002

"I think this is where you and I disagree." I was talking about the initial response. Are you now maintaining that the city's plan was adequate? The 'M' in FEMA means management. Their job is to plan for disasters and coordinate on the regional and national level. They also coordinate communications between those at the site and those that aren't. In 2004, they were given some additional powers in responding prior to the actual emergency. But, oddly, now they are claiming that their job isn't management, it is to offer assistance. If that is true, then something has changed really recently. "the failure of communications infrastructure will be THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON this disaster was so bad." Ever been through more than a minimal strength hurricane on the coast? The communications infrastructure always fail. The police are quickly reduced to handheld radios and CBs running off of car batteries. If help doesn't arrive before the batteries run dry, then they are screwed. When Alicia hit Galveston, communications were the first to go. Same, no doubt, when Carla hit Galveston. I was in Beaumont at the time, though. I am not sure it is possible to harden it enough to survive. Which is why you need National Guard as soon as possible in the wake of a storm. You know, like we did with all the ones prior to Katrina.

To: i-node who wrote (249548)	9/5/2005 4:23:51 PM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 1574002

David, When the history of this event is written, the failure of communications infrastructure will be THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON this disaster was so bad. Good point. I think the problem is that most people assumed that this was America, and these things just are in place. Unfortunately, New Orleans is closer to third world than America, and incompetence reigns. Joe

To: i-node who wrote (249548)	9/5/2005 4:49:12 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1574002

When the history of this event is written, the failure of communications infrastructure will be THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON this disaster was so bad. The city had no ability to run its police department which led to looting and gang violence. This is the city's responsibility and frankly, there is little excuse for it. It is difficult for me to believe that the city didn't have a hardened communications infrastructure that could operate for an extended period on generator power, etc. Seems insane to me. Your posts have shown that you know very little of the facts and yet you have the balls to make assertions like the one above. You don't know whether they had a communications infrastructure like you suggest in first place. If they did, you don't know if its ten feet under water or not. Its very clear that things in NO are very bad and that its very likely any plan was nearly impossible to implement once the levees were breached. I have seen the mayor speak......he is clearly bright, direct and able bodied. In fact he worked for a communications firm before becoming mayor. I doubt very much that it was his fault. I have seen the governor speak. I doubt very much that it was her fault. Every politician, Dem or Rep, in the State of LA has put the blame squarely on FEMA and Bush without hestitation. There is every reason to believe their assertions over yours. Sorry.