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To: paret who wrote (518)	9/7/2005 4:26:39 PM
From: aladin	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1118

Paret, I agree that lives were lost due to incompetence, but since when do you expect that from Politicians at any level? :-) We need methods and procedures put in place with National Guard (or other agreed upon agency leadership) kicking into place with civilian oversight. Once an emergency is declared you want professionals handling the situation - not gated by political hacks of any party. When to declare? That to can be decided ahead of time - Cat 1/2's can be handled similar to the past (ie reactive). Cat 3 and up should probably require declarations before landfall and specific procedural steps to be taken. For these killer storms - resources could be put in motion faster. For example - if the law allowed it an the NG General in charge had requested 82nd Airborne help on Sunday when major damage was expected - he would have had these resources 2-3 days earlier. The politicians should actually love this - they can work funding, use oversight to critique and appear for photo ops. John

To: paret who wrote (518)	9/7/2005 5:59:10 PM
From: tsigprofit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1118

FEMA - Federal Emergency Management Agency - that's why we have it. No city or state could deal with a major disaster like this on it's own.

To: paret who wrote (518)	9/7/2005 9:15:04 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1118

Interesting. I just read the hurricanes section of the NO "Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan" at cityofno.com In it, they briefly mention the need to provide for "registered" disabled folks, but the bulk of the document is about who has what authority, how to educate the public about disaster preparedness, how to go about notifying the public of hazards or the need to evacuate and how to manage traffic flows once and evacuation is ordered. Probably pretty standard stuff, but it clearly does not address the needs of the large portion of the NO population who have no means of evacuating on their own. It also talks about sheltering evacuees and "recovery operations" in the sense of damage assessments, debris removal and infrastructure repairs, but does not address at all the potential for needing to go in and rescue thousands of stranded citizens AFTER a disaster. Considering all the talk the last week about how "everyone knew what could happen", it sure doesn't show in the "plan" created by those in the best position to know and to do something about it. BTW, excellent WSJ article today about what actually happened that led to the levee breaches, the state of that important infrastructure (including how Lower Ninth Ward residents sued to block Army Corps improvement plans for the industrial canal), and also several first hand accounts of the rush of water into the eastern districts of NO and the neighboring parrish (and survival thereof). "Anatomy of a Flood: 3 Deadly Waves" online.wsj.com If anyone doesn't have online access to the WSJ or can't get a hard copy, PM me. I can e-mail the article. Bob