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To: Bill who wrote (700636)	9/8/2005 10:57:08 AM
From: HPilot	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

It is well known that the Antarctic ice sheet is growing, not shrinking. 90% of the world's ice cap is located there. Yet last spring this fact did not stop lamenting that the ice was melting when several large pieces broke off. Even scientists got into the act by claiming that they broke off because of warmer water from global warming. But that happens as the ice shelf gets bigger and accumulates in warmer water. The larger the ice sheet the larger the ice breakers that break off.

To: Bill who wrote (700636)	9/8/2005 11:25:55 AM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Interesting read, but it does indicate a warming trend. Increased snowfall could slow* sea-level rise.* The climate warming trend is still under review though. (just trying find some links not from the "enviro whackos" as cyberken calls them -g-) en.wikipedia.org It's been a well studied matter now. I don't think anyone is disputing the data. You can find all sorts of links on it The interpretation is up for grabs still. Mainly because the Earths temperature trends are of a non linear mathematical nature. Here is a conservative scientific viewpoint. It is an unfortunate fact, for example, that the longest continuous temperature record, Central England, is situated in one of the most populous and industrialised places on Earth. numberwatch.co.uk Here is another source you might trust.. ncdc.noaa.gov It is a pleasure to stand upon the shore, and to see ships tost upon the sea: a pleasure to stand in the window of the castle and to see the battle and the adventures thereof below: but no pleasure is comparable to the standing upon the vantage ground of truth ( a hill not to be commanded and where the air is always clear and serene), and to see the errors, and wanderings, and mists, and tempests, in the vale below. From Of Truth, Francis Bacon numberwatch.co.uk

To: Bill who wrote (700636)	9/8/2005 11:33:15 AM
From: CYBERKEN	Respond to of 769670

The CULT FORBIDS you to present such facts. Watch your a--...

To: Bill who wrote (700636)	9/8/2005 11:34:35 PM
From: paret	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Democrats' anti-Bush petition also seeks political contributions By DEVLIN BARRETT Associated Press Writer September 8, 2005, WASHINGTON -- A new Democratic effort to whip up indignation about the Bush administration's handling of Hurricane Katrina also tried to raise money for Democratic candidates. Sen. Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat and the head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, issued an appeal Thursday urging people to sign an online petition to fire the head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency over his handling of the Katrina response. After an inquiry from the Associated Press, the DSCC quickly pulled down the page and said they would donate to charity any money raised by the anti-FEMA petition. When recipients clicked on a link to the petition, the top center of the screen _ above the call to "Fire the FEMA director" _ had asked for a donation to the DSCC. Other DSCC Web pages have the same appeal for contributions, but several do not. Since Katrina, Democrats have charged Republicans badly botched the response, and some have called for the firing of FEMA chief Michael Brown. In recent days, Republicans hit back by accusing Democrats of trying to use the human tragedy for political gain. The letter, the GOP said Thursday, was proof. "It's a disgrace to exploit Hurricane Katrina to raise political funds," said Brian Nick, spokesman for the National Republican Senatorial Committee. "They should halt this activity because it's way over the line," he said. DSCC spokesman Phil Singer said: "While the content of the letter is totally valid, it should have never been linked to a Web site that asks people to contribute to political campaigns. We regret it, have removed the letter from our site and will donate any contributions raised as a result of this petition to the Red Cross." The letter is the latest sign that more than a week after Hurricane Katrina struck, the political fight over what went wrong in the response continues to grow. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has called for an independent commission to probe government failures before and after Katrina, while House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi called Bush "oblivious, in denial, dangerous" in his approach to relief efforts. Rep. Thomas Reynolds, head of the House Republicans' fund-raising efforts, described Democratic criticism as "reprehensible," saying "this is a tragedy, not an opportunity." The administration and Republican leaders in Congress are scrambling to launch a number of initiatives to help hurricane refugees and victims, including a new $51 billion aid package.

To: Bill who wrote (700636)	9/9/2005 9:37:02 AM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

The link you provided says this, "The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has reported that sea level is currently rising at about 1.8 millimetres per year, largely through melting of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets as a result of global warming." The article says regional weather patterns may increase snowfall in Antartica, and slow the melting of the ice. Howeveer, he article supports my argument that global warming is real and its effects measurable.... "Although the results of the satellite survey are in line with the predictions of global-warming models, the thickening of the ice sheet could still be explained by natural weather variability, warns Curt Davis of the University of Missouri, Columbia." "East Antarctica thickened at an average rate of about 1.8 centimetres per year over the time period studied, the researchers discovered. ... "It is the only large terrestrial ice body that is gaining mass rather than losing it," says Davis. The thickening of the eastern ice sheet should not be seen as a long-term protection against a rise in sea level, warns Vaughan. Glaciers in West Antarctica are accelerating, releasing more and more icebergs into the sea. And the Antarctic Peninsula, which stretches towards South America, now regularly hits temperatures above 0 °C in the summer, leading to direct melting of the ice there. What's more, snowfall over East Antarctica will not continue to increase indefinitely in a warming world, Vaughan adds. Conversely, every extra degree of temperature rise will continue to accelerate glaciers and cause more melting on the western side of Antarctica, swelling the world's oceans further" Read it again, waterconserve.info