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To: epicure who wrote (67775)	9/14/2005 1:11:47 AM
From: JF Quinnelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71178

I thought he was making the point that liberals supported Bruce, and now (gosh darn those liberals) they support PC suppression of bigots. That's a fine example of 'asserting the premise', one of the classic logical fallacies. It may be satisfying to imagine that those who object to PC are merely defending bigots, but it isn't logic, it's simply you sneaking your premise into your conclusion. since profanity isn't really aimed at any one group to dehumanize them, but JF seems to think it is some kind of similar issue- and I am fed up with potty mouths myself (although I dislike bigots more, I must say)- so I am fine with society squelching both- Bruce wasn't prosecuted for profanity, and the targets of today's PC code aren't being prosecuted for using vulgarity. They are expressing ideas that PC authorities wish to censor: Back on Nov. 4, 1964, the dissenting judge, James Creel, in People v. Bruce, New York Criminal Court, wrote: "The performances of Lenny Bruce here in question are found to be not obscene. . . . The motions to dismiss made by defense counsel . . . based on the grounds that Penal Law 1140 A is unconstitutional are sustained and granted." Judge Creel went on to denounce "this nihilistic state of Judge-made law as to obscenity." opinionjournal.com But most PC pressure is societal, and not statist, anyway. Political correctness has been enforced using employment threats, discipline of students, and force generally.