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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (701872)9/14/2005 3:11:25 PM
From: ManyMoose  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
These leftwing activist judges down in San Francisco need to be taken to task for their rulings. We do not need this kind of ruling to be free in this country. If some kid doesn't want to recite the pledge of allegiance, then by all means keep his damn mouth shut when loyal Americans are doing it.



To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (701872)9/14/2005 3:13:39 PM
From: Mr. Palau  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Sorry to disappoint you, but the federal judge is from the CA valley, not SF.



To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (701872)9/15/2005 2:34:30 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769670
 
ACLU threat nixes 23rd Psalm display
WND ^ | September 14, 2005

Tapestry with Bible passage hung in county courthouse

Fearing an expensive legal challenge from the ACLU, a county commissioner begrudgingly ordered removal of a display of the 23rd Psalm from a courthouse.

Lawyers with the Georgia chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union charged that displaying the tapestry at the Oglethorpe County Courthouse in Lexington, Ga., essentially is the same as displaying the Ten Commandments, the Athens, Ga., Banner-Herald reported.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the U.S. Supreme Court this summer ruled against the Decalogue's display in a Kentucky courthouse.

County Commission Chairman Robert Johnson directed an employee Monday to remove the Psalm, displayed on a tapestry about 4 feet by 5 feet.

"I sent somebody to take it down, which I think is the wrong thing to do. But I have to do it," Johnson told the Georgia paper.

The display hung for about a month in a hall outside the office of Geneva Stamey, the county clerk of courts.

But the county wanted to avoid the kind of lawsuit that cost Georgia's Barrow County $265,000 in an attempt to maintain a courthouse display of the Ten Commandments.

Johnson said, regarding the tapestry controversy, "It's a shame to say you're not willing to [fight it], but when you know you're going to lose before you start, there's no need to fight the battle."

Johnson added, "I'm not in agreement with the courts. I think we should have the right to do it, but the Supreme Court says we don't."

Stamey said she hung the tapestry to cover an unsightly window in the hallway and because she wanted to share her faith and the 23rd Psalm.

"I love it because of what it says," Stamey told the Banner-Herald.

But the ACLU insisted displaying the religious text is unconstitutional because it amounts to the government promoting one religion over another.

"What you have there is government taking a stand on religion, putting their stamp of approval on a particular religion," said Maggie Garrett, an ACLU staff attorney.

Proponents of such displays, however, contend the ACLU and its allies misread the Constitution's First Amendment, arguing it only bars Congress from establishing a state religion.

The clause says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

The Banner-Herald said there was no complaint about the tapestry until a reporter began asking about it Monday.

ACLU-Georgia Legal Director Gerry Webber said he had never heard of a case challenging a display of a 23rd Psalm text, but said it's a "potential violation" of the Constitution.

"That particular passage of the Bible is distinctly religious," he said.

In June, a sharply divided U.S. Supreme Court issued two historic rulings on the Ten Commandments, allowing its display at a state Capitol and striking down two displays at courthouses.

The decisions – both 5-4 votes – were the first on the issue since the court ruled 25 years ago that the Commandments could not be displayed in public schools.

At issue was the constitutionality of framed copies of the Commandments in two Kentucky courthouses and a monument on the grounds of the Texas state Capitol. The Kentucky opinions can be read here and the Texas opinions here.

In the Kentucky case, the high court declined to ban all displays on government property, saying some, like their own courtroom frieze, are allowed if they have a neutral purpose, such as honoring the nation's legal history.

But the courthouse displays were deemed a promotion of religion.

Writing for the majority, Justice David H. Souter said, "The touchstone for our analysis is the principle that the First Amendment mandates government neutrality between religion and religion, and between religion and nonreligion."

Souter said, "When the government acts with the ostensible and predominant purpose of advancing religion, it violates the central Establishment clause value of official religious neutrality."

Souter was joined in his opinion by Justices John Paul Stevens, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen G. Breyer and Sandra Day O'Connor.

In a dissenting opinion, Justice Antonin Scalia argued that Commandments displays "have a proper place in our civil history."

"In the court's view, the impermissible motive was apparent from the initial displays of the Ten Commandments all by themselves: When that occurs: the Court says, a religious object is unmistakable. Surely that cannot be."

In a stinging rebuke to the court, Scalia said, "What distinguishes the rule of law from the dictatorship of a shifting Supreme Court majority is the absolutely indispensable requirement that judicial opinions be grounded in consistently applied principle."

Scalia was joined in his opinion by Chief William H. Rehnquist and Justices Anthony Kennedy and Clarence Thomas.



To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (701872)9/15/2005 2:40:38 AM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Now right demanding Dem memos
By Alexander Bolton
hillnews.com

Conservative strategists are drafting a letter to Democratic members of the Senate Judiciary Committee demanding the release of hundreds of internal memos detailing contacts between the lawmakers and liberal interest groups opposing John Roberts’s nomination to the Supreme Court.

By planning to press Democrats on the sensitive subject, conservatives seem to be pulling a page from the Democrats’ own political playbook. In the weeks leading up to the confirmation hearings, Senate Democrats have repeatedly called on the White House to give them memos Roberts penned while he was deputy solicitor general in President George H.W. Bush’s administration.

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), the ranking member on the Judiciary Committee, raised the issue again yesterday by releasing a letter dated Sept. 9 from William Moschella, the assistant attorney general. In the letter, Moschella declined to disclose legal memos from Roberts’s tenure in the Office of the Solicitor General.

“It is regrettable that the Bush administration persists in keeping this information from the Senate,” Leahy said. “These documents, from the period of Judge Roberts’s most substantive work experience in the executive branch, would help illuminate his views and earlier decisions on a wide range of key issues that are of vital importance to the American people and to the Senate.”

In their letter, conservatives quote Leahy’s argument that the Senate should have access to the withheld documents. In the letter, they assert that the public is equally entitled to know what is motivating and directing Senate Democratic scrutiny of Roberts, according to a verbal summary given to The Hill.

“Given your demand that the Justice Department hand over John Roberts’s work documents during his time as deputy solicitor general, you should have no reservations about approving the release of the full complement of documents that make up all of the Memogate papers,” conservatives wrote in a draft of the letter, which will be circulated for signatures starting today. About 30 conservative leaders or more are expected to sign it.

A spokeswoman for the Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee declined to comment without first seeing a copy of the letter.

Specifically, conservatives want access to what they estimate may be as many as 4,000 Democratic memos that are in Senate Sergeant at Arms William Pickle’s possession. Last year, Pickle seized Senate Judiciary Committee computers during an investigation. Democrats on the committee called for the probe after internal memos written by aides to Sens. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) were made available to the press without Kennedy’s or Durbin’s consent.

The publicized memos detailed contacts between leading liberal members on the committee and groups that lobbied them on President Bush’s judicial nominees.

In their letter to Democrats, conservatives plan to argue that the memos are not protected by attorney-client privilege, giving them a stronger claim to the documents, they assert, than the Democrats have to the solicitor general’s documents. Roberts’s defenders have argued that a solicitor general’s relationship to a president is akin to an attorney-client relationship and deserves special privilege.

Mark Levin, president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, a conservative public-interest-litigation firm, said that he was familiar with the letter and plans to circulate it.

“I fully support it,” he said. “I’ve always thought that the Congress and the Senate Judiciary Committee in particular gets away with a hypocritical standard. They demand that the executive branch produce everything, and yet on the other hand they refuse to make anything public.”

Kay Daly, president of Coalition for a Fair Judiciary, a conservative group defending Roberts, said she was aware of the letter.

“There are some 4,000 memos locked away in the sergeant at arms’ office that the public has a right to know about,” she said.

Daly said that the since the taxpayers’ fund the salaries of lawmakers and their aides they have a right to know about their work.

Conservatives said their case is bolstered by a memo sent by the Senate archivist to all Judiciary Committee staff members instructing them to preserve all documents and e-mails related to Roberts’s confirmation proceedings, including correspondence with outside groups. Conservatives cite the archivist’s message to support their claim that the internal memos held by the sergeant at arms should be made part of the public domain.

Jeff Lord, who served as associate political director in the Reagan administration from 1985 to 1988 and is working with Progress for America, a pro-Roberts advocacy group, has called for the Democratic memos to be made public during recent trips to Washington state and North Dakota. He traveled to those states to promote a new book he has written about the contentious 2002 Senate confirmation battle over Judge Brooks Smith’s appointment to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Lord called the memos “some of the most revealing things I’ve ever seen while in government,” adding that the evidence of coordination between Democratic senators and third-party groups in the memos made public was “eye-opening.”

One of the publicized memos, by a former aide to Kennedy and dated April 2002, reported that Elaine Jones of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund had asked Democrats to postpone the nomination of Judge Julia Gibbons to the 6th Circuit court until a key case on affirmative action had been decided. Conservatives consider it one of the most damning of the publicized batch.

The memo was downloaded from the Judiciary Committee server and made public in 2003.