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To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (39028)	9/17/2005 9:01:24 PM
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And then flew off to heaven , never to be seen again for 2000 years ....yes , we all know the fantastic story . Came back to life and rescued by the divine Father , like Hercules , Osirus , Prometheus , Mithra and Krishna, Mahavira of the Jains, and the succession of "living Buddhas" before him ? Unfortunately this same propaganda was disseminated with the most virulent of consequences down from Constantine's first so called "conversion" . Once Christianity was adopted , the Holy Jhiad of Christendom was on , resisting down thru the many dark and mindless centuries the true light of Universalism and Cosmopolitan urges of man's mind that began with Socrates , or the ethics and morality of the Buddhas to the east or the wisdom of ancient China . Which btw , did reach over to the middle east centuries before this young country preacher from Galilea wandered and preached . Christians were some of the most barbaric of all the movements that ever brought man together under one sign of supremacy , and the death , tortures and destruction it wrought upon the earth and its peoples are legendary numbers . How strange it is , that some of the worst and most terrible crimes this religion and its Leaders were to commit , was against its own fellow Christians in lengthy Wars of attrition throughout Europe. Yet since the redawn of the age of reason that has thankfully been able to infuse itself incrimentially into the Mother Church (She had no choice), and the off shoot sects has this fanatic superstition dating back to the bronze-age monotheism of tribes of nomadic goatherd warriors , been modified . Though it was so modified when it could not exclude the preceding Greek Philosophies , or sound too dumb. Hero worshipping (and Goddess Worship : ie Mother Mary) dates so far back its hard to find any one source of the origins , and yours is just one more in a long line of successions.

To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (39028)	10/30/2005 2:06:49 AM
From: Cyprian	Respond to of 39621

servants of antichrist... Evangelical Christians Show Support for Jewish Settlers beliefnet.com Associated Press Kfar Etzion, West Bank - Dozens of evangelical Christians from the United States, Europe, and Asia toured Jewish settlements in the West Bank in recent days, taking time out from their organized pilgrimage to the Holy Land to show their support for the Israeli setters. Many of the evangelical Christians are fervent Zionists who believe Jews are the chosen people and their return to the biblical Land of Israel will speed the Second Coming of Christ. Evangelical groups have contributed millions of dollars to Israel in recent years and gave $50,000 to the roughly 9,000 Jewish settlers displaced when Israel pulled out of the Gaza Strip last month. Thousands of the evangelical Christians marched last week in a parade to celebrate Israel's 1967 capture of east Jerusalem, which the Palestinians claim as the capital of a future state. About 150 of the pilgrims, some with Jewish stars around their necks, toured the Kfar Etzion settlement south of Jerusalem on Sunday. "God will show himself glorious in this land," said Diana Liedtke, a nurse from Benton Harbor, Michigan. "You can see God's plan coming to fruition, and it seems like it's speeding up." Liedtke and others were tearful as they watched a film about dozens of Jews killed defending the settlement during the 1948 Middle East war. They nodded and mumbled "amen" as their Jewish guide spoke of the Jewish connection to "Judea and Samaria" - biblical terms for the West Bank, which Israel also captured in 1967. They toured a West Bank rehabilitation community for juvenile delinquents that is funded by Christians, sampled goat cheese and olive oil made by the youths, got horse rides and met Israeli soldiers guarding the community. Yaakov Koos Bouterse, 56, from Alblasserdam, Holland, said he began coordinating contributions to the community out of a feeling that Christians had to make up to the Jews for historical injustices, such as the Holocaust. "The best thing we can do as Christians is clear the road of stones, because as Christians in history we have put so many stones in the way of Jews," Bouterse said. The visitors bought orange bracelets, a symbol supporting the Gaza evacuees and protesting further Israeli pullouts. As their bus wound through the rocky hills where Jews and Christians believe biblical prophets roamed, they watched a video of the Christian Friends of Israeli Communities, which asked them to help finance the defense of settlements. "Your contribution allows you to help fulfill prophecies," the video said. The evangelical Christians say they are not anti-Arab and point out they are also funding a Palestinian orphanage in the West Bank. But many of the Christian groups oppose Israeli territorial concessions to the Palestinians who want to form a state in the West Bank, Gaza and east Jerusalem. Some of Israel's evangelical supporters also believe an apocalyptic battle would follow a Second Coming, in which Jews must accept Jesus or perish. The Israelis welcoming the pilgrims Sunday said they were unconcerned by that. Sondra Oster Baras, an Orthodox Jew, West Bank settler and director of Christian Friends of Israeli Communities, said her own messianic beliefs actually dovetail with the evangelicals' beliefs. "I believe these people are wonderful friends," she said.