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To: sea_urchin who wrote (238)	9/18/2005 7:54:20 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 418

> Are you talking about the Israeli settlers in Gaza who were financed by the US to go there, reimbursed by the US when they left, and are now being financed by the US for yet a third time A good piece by Charley Reese who is not usually as angry as this. antiwar.com >>The American government, by allowing the Israelis to abuse the Palestinians, is accumulating an avalanche of hatred. In other words, our warped foreign policy vis-à-vis the Israelis and Palestinians is not a free lunch. We will pay for it. We already have, but that's not nearly the end of it. There is one consolation for the Christian cultists who believe it is their duty to love Israel. When they get blown up by a terrorist, they will at least have the knowledge that they died to support Israeli expansionism and a settler movement of religious fanatics who despise Christians even more than they hate Muslims*. And, of course, they had better pray very hard that after they are blown up, the God they meet answers to the name of Jehovah instead of Allah.<< Which is saying something --- clal.org >>The opinions of Rabbi Hess are significant because they indicate a distressing trend which has become increasingly apparent in the State of Israel in the last decade. In certain Orthodox circles, rabbis and others, quoting Torah and speaking in the name of Jewish law, have expressed views about the relations between Jews and non-Jews that are such a departure from normally accepted thinking on such matters that one can only react to them with incredulity. Their underlying assumption seems to be that the hostility of the Gentile world to the Jewish people has created an unbridgeable gap between Jew and non-Jew. This hatred is seen as being so intense that it demands, with the supposed approval of the Jewish tradition, a radical response on the part of Jews to the non-Jews who live in their midst and on their borders. ------ Rabbi Zemel's views are also worthy of consideration. They appeared in an article which was written while he served as Chief Military Rabbi of the Central Command, and which contains a halachic justification for the killing of non-Jewish civilians, including women and children, in time of war: "Thus they say, ‘And the best among the Gentiles thou shall kill,’ and one must never trust that a non-Jew will refrain from causing harm to our forces.*" The Chief of Staff suppressed the article, but it later found its way into the secular press (Haolam Hazeh, no. 1915).<<

To: sea_urchin who wrote (238)	9/19/2005 3:47:20 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 418

Re: ...after the second American Civil War.... It seems to me it's already over and the fascists/Jacobins/Trotskyites/neocons have won.... Actually, by "second American Civil War" I mean New Orleans' current mess writ large, that is, civil unrest affecting large swathes of the US.... Re: Maybe? But one must remember that it takes more to make a leading nation than 1.3 billion hard workers and an artificially cheap currency. Indeed. As I said, it also take "soft power" --and military muscle. As far as soft power is concerned, a big asset of the US is its worldwide appeal to graduates and PhDs. Yet the reason European (would-be-)executives want to get an MBA from a prestigious US university/business school stems from the fact that US corporations themselves are better than their European, Asian,..., competitors. That might no longer be the case, however, in ten years, when China's champions --Haier, Lenovo,...-- will be the world leaders in their fields. Of course, you may retort that Japan already has several "world leaders" --Toyota, Sony, Mitsubishi,...-- yet few students around the world apply to Japanese MBA schools. But most observers have posited that the Chinese story won't be a mere replica of the Japanese one. Unlike Japan, China doesn't nurse an insular, jingoistic, fortress mentality. Gus