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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dan B. who wrote (67220)	9/20/2005 12:08:22 AM
From: Orcastraiter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

LOL...I asked you to provide the link to the military's so called press release prior to the press exposing Abu Ghraib. Now we have the administration blocking the release of still more photos and videos of the hideous acts that took place including murder. You deny it all as you are a Bush apologist. You ask me and others for links but have produced none yourself. Start with proving the military admitted the abuses at Abu ghraib before the press broke the story...it was Seymour Hersh in the New Yorker magazine if I remember correctly. Where's your proof of how the military made the "public admission" as you claim? What publication was used? LINK it. Orca

To: Dan B. who wrote (67220)	9/20/2005 12:33:26 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

My comment: The pattern of abuse in Abu Gharib had the support of the highest person in the chain of command, Donald Rumsfeld, someone who is handpicked by Bush. It is a forgone conclusion that having supported the torture, Rumsfeld proceeded to scapegoat Lt. Gen. Kapinski. Skull N’Bones type of operation. When you get caught deflect the attention. Below are some links which support the style. I have also provided excerpts from those links. I hope this will be a settled issue. Our witnesses today are uniquely qualified to answer many of these important questions, including: What policies and procedures were established for the treatment of prisoners and detainee interrogations? What was the chain of command at the prison? Were military police or military intelligence personnel in charge and at what times? When did you -- I say that collectively and individually -- realize the magnitude of these allegations, the seriousness of them, and indeed the uniqueness? What measures did you take to inform the civilian structure, from the president to the Department of Defense, Department of State and others -- that civilian structure that has the ultimate responsibility for the control of the United States military, which goes back to the very origins of this country? What steps were taken to respond to earlier reports of mistreatment of prisoners received from the International Committee of the Red Cross and possibly other sources? And how did the conduct of interrogations and detainee operations evolve from May 2003 until January 2004? washingtonpost.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is also the case that some PMCs are very well politically connected, which helps them get contracts, regardless of their innate merit. For example, one of the PMCs registered with the State Department to do business in Iraq is Diligence LLC. atimes.com US general suggests military intelligence had role in abuses A US Army Reserve general whose soldiers were photographed abusing Iraqi prisoners said Saturday the prison cellblock involved was under the tight control of military intelligence, which may have encouraged the abuse, according to the New York Times. channelnewsasia.com