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To: jttmab who wrote (171026)	9/20/2005 4:28:58 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Islamic fanatics/dummies commit suicide. You don't see OBL or Zarqawi committing suicide. Iran isn't going to commit suicide. Precisely. On the other hand, if Congo (or any other African state for that matter) ever gets a nuke, take cover. :)

To: jttmab who wrote (171026)	9/21/2005 5:05:23 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

You don't know the expression, "coals to Newcastle" or you disagree with the application to Iran's nuclear energy ideas instead of gas energy availability? The proof that they want bombs is in the logic of selling gas via a $$bn pipeline and buying a nuclear reactor to supply energy. Not to mention their genocidal ideas about Israel and Jews, not to mention Islamic Jihad enthusiasm. Iran doesn't conceal those things. It doesn't take the CIA. Just read a newspaper and I suppose a lot of Iranian web sites. Mqurice

To: jttmab who wrote (171026)	9/21/2005 1:59:59 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 281500

Rita Headed for Houston -- Could Take Out Key Remaining Refineries The biggest remaining part of our oil refineries, and of offshore and near-shore recovery of oil and gas, is now in the bull’s eye. This could take the USA well below the capacity of the EU and others to even ship us supplies. by Paul Noel Pure Energy Systems News - Exclusive Copyright © 2005 Hurricane Rita getting stronger and may hit Texas by weekend. Houston, Texas area with Salt Intrusions marked with a red outline. These are due to land subsiding because of Oil and Gas Extraction. Note that large areas of fields are now bare, with only sand visible. Projected strike point for Rita is near text at bottom of image. (Lines drawn by Paul Noel.) Acknowledgement for satellite photo: Google maps HOUSTON, TX, USA -- Hurricane Rita is now forecast to become a Category 4 storm in 24 hours and to fill the entire Gulf of Mexico. (WARNING this is will look like a rerun!) Hurricane Rita is now forecast (all such things have a margin of error until they happen) to make landfall about 60 to 70 miles south of the Houston Ship Channel along the coast of Texas. The heat pictures of the Gulf of Mexico indicate it will be passing over water that is 30 to 32 degrees C over its entire base. Therefore, it is forecast to be a Cat 4 on landing. (I would bet on Cat 5 with pretty good odds right now.) I have been watching this area since before Katrina. If it moves as projected, it will bring a massive storm surge into a large area that is at or below sea level. This area has sunk some 12 to 20 feet due to the withdrawal of oil from the area from the 1930’s to the present. The sinking has been so profound that salt intrusion into the ground water is taking place over a very wide area and killing the plant life. The salt intrusion has been influenced by freshwater withdrawals in the area as well. So here we go again. Houston is a city protected in part by dikes. It is not as far below sea level as New Orleans, but still at risk. New Orleans is now in the 30% to 40% zone for taking tropical storm conditions. This will bring with it a storm surge. (I can only hazard a guess as to how high.) This storm surge is probably going to swamp New Orleans again. The dikes are breached and, though some quick repairs have been done, the city has no reliable flood protection now. Heads up on the oil patch. The biggest remaining part of our oil refineries and offshore and near-shore recovery of oil and gas is now in the bull’s eye of this storm’s target area. This could take the USA well below the capacity of the EU and others to even ship us supplies. We are currently taking 7 million barrels of gasoline a day from the EU stocks, and additional oil and gas from Canada’s reserves. Whether or not this storm materializes as it now appears it could, the scenario provides a good reason to go for alternative energy. pesn.com