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To: benwood who wrote (42127)	9/22/2005 5:53:19 PM
From: orkrious	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

Some people will get better anyway, perhaps 90% by the time a human-human strain makes the rounds I know Henry has said it won't be anything like 90%, and my anesthesiologist friend said he thought the death rate is roughly 30%. Who knows what it will be when/if it's in a human to human form. Even if it's 90%, a 10% fatality rate is horrendous. I'm wondering, beyond an expert's opinion that Tamiflu might help because it works against swine flu and so, why not give it a shot?, is if there is any clinical evidence to support a position that Tamiflu will help against bird flu? I believe Henry has said there is some evidence that Tamiflu may work. Correct, Henry? I believe he has also said taking it in combination with Amantidine may work better. My friend said it's the only thing we've got.

To: benwood who wrote (42127)	9/22/2005 6:43:22 PM
From: NOW	Respond to of 110194

ring around the rosy, pockets full of posy?

To: benwood who wrote (42127)	9/22/2005 7:33:23 PM
From: Elroy Jetson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

Your post is unadulterated nonsense. WHO reports the key to saving a patient with Bird Flu lies in giving Tamiflu within the first 48 hours. Unfortunately most patients in China, Indonesia, and Viet Nam do not get connected with adequate health care within that period. Tony Faucci has said he believes the current untreated death rate from Bird Flu is around 50%. The fatality rate of the 1916 Influenza pandemic was only around 10%. Patients connected with the right hospital in time generally survive, but some fatalities still occur from blood clots dislodged from damaged lung tissue. Patients under treatment have often been given Relenza inhalers in addition to Tamiflu, and some have been given some form of Amantadine. All were place on oxygen and those under care who progressed have been placed on ventilators. .