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To: Elroy who wrote (252767)	9/27/2005 7:13:20 AM
From: Road Walker	Respond to of 1577219

re: My point was simply that protesting US troop presence in Iraq is not an "anti war" protest. Since a rapid departure today from Iraq by coalition forces would likely increase the chances of an Iraqi civil war, protesting coalition troop presence is more of a "pro-war, sooner rather than later" protest. Anti US war. Can we move on?

To: Elroy who wrote (252767)	9/27/2005 9:31:22 AM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577219

My point was simply that protesting US troop presence in Iraq is not an "anti war" protest. Since a rapid departure today from Iraq by coalition forces would likely increase the chances of an Iraqi civil war, I would argue, with an equal chance of being right, that the presence of foreign troops there is in fact the catalyst to insurgency and civil war...one could argue that the combined odds of both scenarios say to me that civil war is inevitable in Iraq. I hope I am wrong... protesting coalition troop presence is more of a "pro-war, sooner rather than later" protest. Look, as I said, it's entirely possible that a civil war was inevitable in iraq under any scenario. A dysfunctional society, with a large segment of the population under repression, such as they have had for years, was quite likely to erupt in violent conflict, eventually. In either case, we had no business sticking our nose in there before it did and without the support of other countries and with all the cautionary advise of many nations (Mubarak said quite literally that we were about to open the gates of hell). The administration miscalculated immensely the complex set of events that have been ignited, they sold it as easy ( remember Mission Accomplished?), they exagerated the case, they stumped on anyone who disagreed, and other horrendous mismanagent with the consequence that many people have and continue to die in our name. Which makes these people at best incompetent morons not up to the task of ruling, and at worse sinister fascists, or the most probable scenario, which is incompetent idiots manipulated by sinister fascists...I will leave it to you to figure out who is which. Al