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To: elpolvo who wrote (62624)	9/28/2005 5:15:42 PM
From: Murrey Walker	Respond to of 65232

Powie, you took the words out of my mouth. Abbie likes to taunt, and Tim likes to reply with an encyclopedia of facts. Like you, I would prefer to discuss the nuances between Polish and Hungarian beers (nah, never mind -- still reeling myself in from the trip to Europe).

To: elpolvo who wrote (62624)	9/28/2005 6:35:38 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 65232

"A lie should be trampled on and extinguished wherever found. I am for fumigating the atmosphere when I suspect that falsehood, like pestilence, breathes around me." Thomas Carlyle (1795 - 1881) English essayist, historian, biogropher & philosopher I couldn't agree more. Isn't it interesting that almost every time a situation like this occurs, I am the 1st or, in most cases, the only person asked to stop it & take it elsewhere? It's as if I were the key instigator or a lone actor. And almost every time this occurs the real instigator is given a free pass or at worst, peripheral, inconsequential treatment. All I am doing here is responding to an ongoing litany of calumnious, intentionally misleading partisan diatribes presented as though all of it were fact. Abstract (who fervently believes that perception is more important than reality) has almost always been the initiator/instigator. Oh, in case you missed it, this is from the thread header: This is a safe house where friends of Voltaire can meet to discuss any topic that tickles their fancy. I am in full compliance with established thread standards. If Dealer wishes, she is free to ban me anytime for any reason she deems appropriate. Until then, I fully intend to continue posting here within those established standards.

To: elpolvo who wrote (62624)	9/28/2005 7:20:10 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 65232

"don't you have a political thread of your own where you can post all this stuff?" What does my thread* have to do with responding to anything posted here? "maybe you could invite paul over there" Abstract (Paul) knows about my thread & has posted there frequently in the past. He is free to post there any time he wishes. Unfortunately, in the past Paul has frequently & intentionally violated established thread guidelines by repeatedly; - stating unsubstantiated opinion as fact, then refusing to retract it or provide credible evidence to support it, - posting thoroughly discredited propaganda even after repeated warnings to stop & - indulging in personal attacks. This has resulted in numerous temporary bans. My best guess is that he would much rather instigate, agitate & spread his misperception as reality where established thread standards are more lenient. Unfortunately, most of what Paul posts here is precisely the type of reality defying meme's my thread was established to expose. * Perhaps you should read my thread header (linked below). It's main purpose for being is to expose reality defying POV's for what they are. And it does so by documenting them, then refuting them with credible, independently verifiable evidence, ET AL. Subject 54329