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To: neolib who wrote (171453)	9/29/2005 12:26:14 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 281500

Bush 'greater threat than bin Laden' ______________________________________________ Source: Daily Telegraph URL Source: dailytelegraph.news.com.au Published: Sep 24, 2005 A PANEL reporting to the US State Department has warned that US President George W. Bush is seen in some Arab nations as a greater threat than al-Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden, a US newspaper reported today. The report by the congressionally mandated advisory panel, which found that "America's image and reputation abroad could hardly be worse", has been seen by senior officials but not yet released publicly, The Washington Post said. A fact-finding mission to the Middle East last year found that "there is deep and abiding anger toward US policies and actions", according to The Post. The Advisory Committee on Cultural Diplomacy cited polls that found that large majorities in Egypt, Morocco and Saudi Arabia "view George W. Bush as a greater threat to the world order than Osama bin Laden". Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy Karen Hughes, a longtime presidential adviser, prepares to leave this weekend on a "listening tour" of the Middle East. The panel's report warns that televised images of US policy choices - such as in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the invasion of Iraq - reverberate across the Arab media and will "long haunt the image of the United States", the paper said. The committee recommended a series of steps, including increased funding and staffing, to rebuild efforts to promote US culture and ideas - an essential task that it said has been eroded through bureaucratic shuffling and indifference. In much of the world, the report said, the United States is viewed as "less a beacon of hope than a dangerous force to be countered", according to The Post. The advisory committee was created by the US Congress in 2004 and charged with advising the secretary of state on how to advance cultural diplomacy.

To: neolib who wrote (171453)	9/29/2005 4:19:25 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<//I've seen nothing from the anti-war folks that even pretends to visualize what will happen if we leave before the young democracy is mature enough to defend themselves.// Pretty much the same as happened in Iran when our friend the Shah left, or Vietnam when we left, or Zimbabwe when it got majority rule, or Nicaragua when our friend died there, etc.> USA victories in Japan, South Korea, West Germany, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, Italy, France, etc all resulted in democracy, civilization and excellent economic development. USA losses in Vietnam, North Korea, Lebanon, East Germany, Poland, Bulgaria, resulted in economic backwardness, repression, suffering and a long period of darkness. If the USA pulls out of Iraq, there will be a battle for power and control of the oil - the world's biggest found-wealth prize. I suppose Iran, Iraqis, Syrians, Kuwaitis and Saudis would all be at it, hammer and tongs, perhaps with Turkey joining in, though probably not Egypt or Jordan. Iran will be backed by Russia which will reduce competition for Russian hydrocarbons and increase Russian hydrocarbon export profits. China would probably back Iran too. Having watched ant colonies fight over cheese left in their vicinity, there are certain rules as to who gets to own the cheese. The same sort of rules apply to cheese in the form of oil being fought over by human colonies. I suggest everyone meets at Armageddon for an all-out showdown. It would be good if it could be shown live on tv as it would be a shame for people around the world to miss the action. Mqurice