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To: Clappy who wrote (47143)	9/29/2005 11:23:59 AM
From: Crocodile	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 104157

clapper~ my mother's family were all hunters. being a large family growing up during the depression, they hunted more for food than for the sport of it. all were excellent woodsmen and ended up opening a sporting goods store long before such places were common. most of them continued to fish, but i think that all of them pretty much stopped hunting in their later years. i've seen that a lot with people i've known -- many say they've lost the desire to hunt, especially with things being as they are today -- wildlife under pressure in many regions. quite a few of them took up photography instead and say it gives as much if not more of a thrill to be out in the forest trying to capture a good photo. Anyway I guess it must be the do-it-yerselfer in me that is the only reason why I still ponder the thought of taking the hunting class to get my license. Sort of a feeling of being able to survive and sustain if needed. You could get yourself a nice digital camera with one of the incredible vibration reduction zooms (my latest camera has a 10X zoom and it's awesome)... and go take a few photography classes or just wing it and practice, and get out in the bush taking photos!! And you could "shoot" snakes and salamanders while you're out tracking deer. trust me.. that's something that the hunters can't do. <g> Anyhow, many of the skills are virtually the same. Some photographers even wear camis and use blinds, etc... to get in for very close shots. i don't do that myself.. i just dress in dark colours and depend more on how i move through the forest. The really nice thing about going out "shooting" with a camera instead of a gun is that you're usually looking at wildlife either from a few inches to feet away, or through the lens or LCD screen of some pretty nice optics -- so it can be very exciting in its own way. just one croc's opinion, of course. (o: ~croc

To: Clappy who wrote (47143)	9/29/2005 1:11:29 PM
From: altair19	Respond to of 104157

Clapper, <But I still teeter back and forth > I used to bird and deer hunt. We always ate what we killed. After I got out of the service, I stopped hunting. When we first were married, A20 wanted me to stop getting my pilot's liscense and get rid of the guns in the house...me flying and having guns around really made her nervous. So, that's what I did and really haven't missed it. I think if I still lived in Minnesota, I'd still want to hunt because it was part of the social world I was in, but around here, if you are a Bambi Basher you are the anti-Christ. I"ve done some skeet shooting from time to time with a borrowed shot-gun - still have a pretty good eye. Altair19

To: Clappy who wrote (47143)	9/29/2005 1:47:00 PM
From: abuelita	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 104157

clapper- i know what you mean about not being able to kill a deer. i'm the same way. so is harold. but, and this is a big but, the deer are so plentiful on these islands that the take has increased to 15 per person per year - 10 months a year i think. and, from what the talk is, that still won't contain them. so, not only are people filling their freezers, but they are being ecologically responsible. anyway, that's how i want to look at it. i have trouble cooking live crab <ng> we're off to get some fencing material. later ... -hoserini