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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (322)	9/30/2005 8:52:59 AM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 418

Gus > Israeli officials said Thursday that, even though Tom DeLay was a great supporter of Israel in his leadership position, they do not think Israel's stand in congress will be affected by his departure, since there is a strong support base for Israel in both parties and in both houses of Congress. They have seen to it anyway that AIPAC, ADL and whoever else own, coerce or blackmail most of the Congressmen. Everyone knows that the American government is the best government that money can buy. In fact, that's why DeLay is being kicked out -- not because he took money -- they all do -- but because he was found out. But as I said in my previous post, what a shocking, indeed terrifying situation, that religious superstition and myth should now take precedence over common law. That people who have lived in a particular region for thousands of years should be regarded as trespassers in their own land because others have appeared with a book of fairy tales and on the basis of those fairy tales lay claim to the land.

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (322)	9/30/2005 12:18:26 PM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 418

Gus > ... he [DeLay] believes that the land of Israel was given to the people of Israel by god and should not be divided. He can believe what he likes but if he wants to know the truth about God's gift to the people of Israel he can read it here: nkusa.org >>FIRST -- The so-called "State of Israel" is diametrically opposed and completely contradictory to the true essence and foundation of the People of Israel, as is explained above. The only time that the People of Israel were permitted to have a state was two thousand years ago when the glory of the creator was upon us, and likewise in the future when the glory of the creator will once more be revealed, and the whole world will serve Him, then He Himself (without any human effort or force of arms) will grant us a kingdom founded on Divine Service. However, a worldly state, like those possessed by other peoples, is contradictory to the true essence of the People of Israel. Whoever calls this the salvation of Israel shows that he denies the essence of the People of Israel, and substitutes another nature, a worldly materialistic nature, and therefore sets before them, a worldly materialistic "salvation," and the means of achieving this "salvation" is also worldly and materialistic i.e. to organize a land and army. However, the true salvation of the People of Israel is to draw close to the Creator. This is not done by organization and force of arms. Rather it is done by occupation to Torah and good deeds. SECOND -- Because of all of this and other reasons the Torah forbids us to end the exile and establish a state and army until the Holy One, blessed He, in His Glory and Essence will redeem us. This is forbidden even if the state is conducted according to the law of the Torah because arising from the exile itself is forbidden, and we are required to remain under the rule of the nations of the world, as is explained in the book VAYOEL MOSHE. If we transgress this injunction, He will bring upon us (may we be spared) terrible punishment. THIRD -- Aside from arising from exile, all the deeds of the Zionists are diametrically opposed to the Faith and the Torah. Because the foundation of the Faith and Torah of Israel is that the Torah was revealed from heaven, and there is reward for those who obey it and punishment for those who transgress it. The entire People of Israel is required to obey the Torah, and whoever doesn't want to, ceases to be part of the congregation of Israel. FOURTH -- Aside from the fact that they themselves do not obey the Torah they do everything they can to prevent anyone they get under their power from fulfilling the commands of the Torah, the claims to freedom of religion are lies. They fight with all of their strength to destroy the Faith of Israel.<< And anyone who claims to believe in the Ten Commandments knows that theft (including the theft of land) is forbidden. Clearly, the State of Israel has been built on moral and religious quicksand.