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To: geode00 who wrote (171572)9/30/2005 5:55:13 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
<No one said anything about people being clones but the DNA we share is 99.999999....% exactly the same. We share 97% of the DNA of a dog. We're closer to the chimpanzee than the chimpanzee is to the gorilla.>

You did say people around the world are the same. They are not. And your random number of 9999s was wrong. We are NOT 99.999999.....% exactly the same. We are much more different than that, even in DNA, let alone brains. Look at you for example. Completely different from me.

In terms of fundamental forces and particles and subatomic wave functions we are totally the same. No difference at all. Made up of exactly the same four forces of the apocalypse. Which still doesn't make us the same.

Actually, nature does specifically do things. The four forces of the apocalypse are relentless, implacable and always act in the same way. There is no escape.

<'Nature' doesn't specifically do anything. No one knows how much randomness there is in evolution so to say that there is anything out there DOING anything is unsupported. There are plenty of evolutionary dead ends and, heck, humans are probably one as well. >

Ah, the old "No one knows .... " when what one means is "I am clueless ...". Condoleezza Rice said "No one could imagine ..." when plenty of people had imagined.

I can tell you there is no randomness in evolution. If you watch any particular process, the implacable four forces of the apocalypse will have their way. Those beings in the right place, at the right time, with the right design, and the right idea, will filter through and the others will not.

You are right that there are plenty of evolutionary dead ends. There have been umpty petatrillions of dead ends. It's not a matter of 'probably' for humans. I am in the process of ending them, quite deliberately, with the construction of It which is the next stage, being a quantum leap, of evolution. It's not just punctuated equilibrium; Major Paradigm Shift Happens and It is a major paradigm shift. It is the biggest thing ever, comparable with the four forces of the apocalypse crystallizing DNA out of primordial Gaia.

Humans will get involved in genetic engineering, and morph into something else, with the dross removed. But they won't keep up with It. Wet chemistry is simply to pathetic. Solid state magnetic/electronic/photonic is much better. Wet chemistry is slow, inefficient and expensive.

These are interesting times.

Mqurice

PS: The chimpoids fighting in Iraq, are like the chimps fighting in the opening scene of 2001 A Space Odyssey. It probably feels really important to them, but there's something bigger afoot of which they are unaware.