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To: arun gera who wrote (171689)	10/1/2005 10:48:41 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Arun, those Indian knowledge workers who are brainy [better at math than english], were selected from the billion and grounded in english and tuned up on it in the USA english context. Maybe the parents were not amazing spelling bee winners, but I bet they had plenty of innate talent. Their driven offspring, using their high performance DNA, motivation and english surroundings then excelled. Re the Ashkenazis, no to your theory. Intelligence testing is not testing culture, though people try to argue that it is. You can't make an Einstein out of a chimp and you can't make an Einstein out of nearly everyone. Our DNA is simply not up to the job. He hit the jackpot in the shuffling of DNA. Of course somebody who can use english well will get about 50% more pay. They can communicate with those with the money [Americans, Japanese, Germans etc who use english as their lingua franca]. It's no use speaking hinglish to people outside India. < As a result - the people who got better education also were better in English. Somehow the two became equivalent - a person who spoke good english was considered more intelligent. A theory you and most Indians also believe. In India, a person who speaks better English can easily command about 50 percent more in the job market, assuming other skills are equal.> You misunderstand me. I guess that those Indians who can use english are more intelligent than those who can't, but it's not because they got the education. It's because, being more intelligent, their parents were in a position to get the education for their offspring which will do well by them, as shown by the 50% increase in pay. I don't know anything about Indians in Malaysia. Maybe their ancestors were poor migrant workers taken there as semi-serfs en masse and were unintelligent and unsuccessful before they left India. I don't understand why that is a counter example. It shows again what I'm saying, which is that intelligence is genetic [with toxins, lack of nutrients, lack of love, and lack of experience able to reduce that ability]. But if there's no poisoning and no lack of the rest, then what you get is expression of the genetic foundations in the grown person. By age 4, it's pretty obvious who has got the good stuff. By age 12, bright children are beating college-bound seniors on SAT scores. Mqurice