To: abstract who wrote (14694 ) 10/4/2005 6:10:12 PM From: Sully- Respond to of 35834 Profile for abstract Favorite Quote: "perception is more important than reality" ** ...."You are not interested in discourse. You are solely interested in being right even when you are wrong." .... From the thread header: This thread was created mainly to expose all manner of reality defying claptrap.... Please limit your discourse to issues that can consistently be supported with facts & credible evidence from reliable, independently verifiable sources..... ...."You make up rules to protect you from the truth you disdain, while giving lip service to "facts" which are patently full of beans. Trying to have a conversation with you is like talking to a tree: deaf, but blowing full force in the wind." .... From the thread header: I have no illusions this thread will ever be wildly popular. That was never the point. The standards here are quite high & they will remain that way. Quality trumps quantity on this thread. I'd rather there be a scant few reality based discussions than hundreds of dishonest partisan diatribes, invective laced smears, slander, misinformation & propaganda based on an inflexible political ideology. If this isn't your cup of tea, fine. Move On. There's plenty of other threads where almost anything goes - NOT HERE. & "Do you love truth for truth’s sake, and will you endeavor impartially to find and receive it yourself, and communicate it to others?" - Benjamin Franklin “Most people nurture the facts that confirm their world view and ignore or marginalize the ones that don't, unable to achieve enough emotional detachment from their own political passions to see the world as it really is.” - David Brooks None are so blind as those who will not see. I rest my case. ** Member 7933805