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To: John Koligman who wrote (182233)	10/3/2005 6:55:10 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 186894

yeah same story with all the big cap techs like cisco, intel, dell. There are just too many outstanding shares and the only people that seem to own these anymore are the index funds and a few really big, diversified institutions like TIAA Cref. The stocks just don't move. Maybe that will change as tech is expanding again but it is going to take a lot for these guys to move. Sun is one company who might rally as a stock because they are really cheap and people have written them off for dead but the other "horsemen" of the last decade seem to be asleep imho

To: John Koligman who wrote (182233)	10/9/2005 3:51:49 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

I watched the movie wall street again last night. The Gordon Gekko "greed is good" speech really hit home for some of these mature techs. Gekko: Teldar Paper, Mr. Cromwell, Teldar Paper has 33 different vice presidents, each earning over 200 thousand dollars a year. Now, I have spent the last two months analyzing what all these guys do, and I still can't figure it out. One thing I do know is that our paper company lost 110 million dollars last year, and I'll bet that half of that was spent in all the paperwork going back and forth between all these vice presidents. americanrhetoric.com