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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (171985)	10/5/2005 2:47:17 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

It's hard for me to see how the guys at Enron who ruined thousands and thousands of lives, are "better" people than a thug who goes around beating people up. We tend to see white collar "high IQ" crime, that doesn't involve actual physical violence, as somehow "better" than mere thuggery. I'm not sure why that is. I think the man who orders toxic waste to be dumped in an area where it will give 300 people cancer is actually worse than the man who beats up 1 person, or even 10 people. The gross amoung of suffering, it seems to me, is what matters. But the calculus of suffering will probably differ, depending on who is doing the math.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (171985)	10/6/2005 8:56:56 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

If I have figured out how to pick your pocket by helping you with your bags instead of holding a gun to your head and demanding your wallet (and save myself a lot of headache), am I a more decent and loving person? I understand what you are trying to tell me. You can make up all kinds of hypotheticals to prove your point. I have no doubt you can come up with many. What you don't understand is this: The race may not always go to the swift, nor the battle to the strong - but that is the way you bet. Not everyone with an high IQ utilize what they have. A lot of high IQ types do stupid things. A lot of low IQ types do an awful lot with what they have. But high IQ types are much more likely to be able to correlate things. They can correlate that being good to people, being loving, being decent - has a higher chance of getting good returns than being a schmuck. A lot of high IQ types can correlate that schmucks often do not get much out of life. Schmucks are often losers in life. Of course there are exceptions - glaring exceptions. But its all about doing the math. The high IQ types are more likely to be good at math. They are more likely to be able to figure out that being kind, decent, and loving yields better results in life.