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To: Road Walker who wrote (253888)	10/6/2005 2:35:17 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1575746

re: We are establishing in the Middle East the roots of the same civil democratic society architecture that has allowed Americans to prosper and do well for the past 200 years. Where in the world have you been? Listen, you've got such a Pollyanish view of what's going on that it's impossible to discuss... it's like talking to a 5 year old about the tooth fairy. Mark this point in time... October 5, 2005, and we'll come back in a year and have another discussion. That's what the hawks are telling themselves..........democracy is sprouting in the ME. Its the same people who believed Saddam had WMDS. It's like discussing with Tinkerbell. That's right. ted

To: Road Walker who wrote (253888)	10/6/2005 3:48:35 AM
From: Elroy	Respond to of 1575746

Mark this point in time... October 5, 2005, and we'll come back in a year and have another discussion. A year? Try a decade.

To: Road Walker who wrote (253888)	10/6/2005 3:53:59 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1575746

Look at it this way. Yogoslavia was an authoritarian dictatorship since WW2 until about 1990. Then in the break down of authoritarian rule some of those countries wound up in major civil wars which resulted in the Bosnia-Serbia problems of the 1990s. The region is still coming to terms with their ethnic rivalries, and not yet 100% peaceful. But the region has some semblance of democracy and the opportunity in the future to get the economic benefits of the EU and be a "normal" player in world affairs with all the benefits that that brings. So, do you think it would have been better if Yugoslavia had not been allowed to split into its various countries, a strong man remained in charge, the wars of the 1990s never occurred (the strong man just did some major repression of the populace) and Yugoslavia was still one nation under a Gaddafi-type strong man? Or was it worth it, and despite the Bosnian-Serbian wars/genocide, the people of Yugoslavia (at least those that remain) are better off that they theoretically would have been if their authoritarian government in 1989 just cracked down on the various separitist movements?