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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (253906)	10/5/2005 9:17:42 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571911

>Given these "inconveniences," many would choose not to work and get paid for it, even if the pay is half that of a full-time minimum wage job. This is not to say that these people should be judged as "slackers" and left to rot. But it does point out how welfare cannot solve the core problems. But if 80% of 'em appear to get jobs within a few years, doesn't it seem like most would choose to work? Just because a small portion of people abuse a system doesn't mean it's a bad system... and you can usually do things to prevent that abuse. -Z

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (253906)	10/5/2005 9:33:13 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 1571911

"Often people trying to get off of welfare have a very hard time holding down a job. " Link? I have no doubt that there are some who have problems for the reasons you cite. Many minimum wagers move from job to job for those reasons, although I haven't heard the one about dope on the job. But many minimum wage jobs have managers who are jerks, expect and awful lot for their $5.15 an hour, just listen to a Mikey D's employee talk about company policy, etc. Not all, Jack in the Box doesn't pay any better, but the employees I've talked to feel they are treated very well. Jason's Deli is another.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (253906)	10/6/2005 12:31:37 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571911

Z, Doesn't the post you're responding to show statistics which refute that statement? Not really. Often people trying to get off of welfare have a very hard time holding down a job. The reasons are wide and varied: job is too hard, job is too menial, manager is a jerk, can't do dope on the job, etc. Your comments are anecdotal. They are what you want to believe is happening out there. You have concluded in a typical immigrant's bias that the only good poor people out there are Korean emigrés. But I've got news for you.........no Korean in this country has had to endure the kind of discrimination the black people have had to endure. That's a powerful statement considering that Koreans have faced a good amount of discrimination. But I understand......its a lot easier for you to believe blacks are a cross the Korean population must endure. Given these "inconveniences," many would choose not to work and get paid for it, even if the pay is half that of a full-time minimum wage job. This is not to say that these people should be judged as "slackers" and left to rot. But it does point out how welfare cannot solve the core problems. The facts say otherwise. You are wrong. ted