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To: tejek who wrote (254130)	10/8/2005 5:02:32 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570678

Re: Huh? Most leaders in Europe, right or left, are opposed to Turkey's admission to the EU. Most Europeans are opposed to Turkey's admission to the EU. That's grossly inaccurate. Tony Blair, his former Tory contender Michael Howard, Jacques Chirac, Alain Juppé, Jean-Louis Debré, Gerhard Schroeder, Joschka Fisher, Gianfranco Fini, Herman Decroo (Belgium's President of the House of Repr.),... are all in favor of Turkey's entry into the EU. French Official Defends Turkey's EU Bid, Says Bloc Not "Christian Club" PARIS, November 10 (IslamOnline & News Agencies) - France's representative on the body charting the European Union's future stepped into the row over Turkey's bid for EU membership on Sunday, November 10, saying the bloc was not a "Christian club" and Ankara should be judged on the same criteria as any other candidate. Meanwhile, Greece said that EU rejection of Turkey would be a serious error. "Europe is not a Christian club and it should not have hidden criteria," former Europe minister Pierre Moscovici told a Jewish radio, reported Agence France-Presse (AFP) said. Moscovici was speaking two days after Valery Giscard d'Estaing, the French former president who chairs the Convention on the Future of Europe, sparked controversy by rejecting the idea of Turkish membership as the "end of the European Union". Moscovici said Giscard d'Estaing's comments were a "completely legitimate" expression of his views but insisted that "in the enlarged Europe we are building, a Europe of 500 million people, there are and there will be Muslims who have a place there." The EU "has already given its word and must keep its word", he said, adding that Turkey's Justice and Development party (AKP), which has its roots in a banned Islamic party, should be "judged by its actions" after its landslide election victory last week. Giscard d'Estaing, who is drafting an EU constitution, had alluded to Turkey's Muslim population, saying that the country had a "different culture" and a high birth rate that would make it potentially the EU's largest country, AFP said. His comments provoked anger among Turkish and EU officials, with the outgoing Turkish government calling immediately for his resignation. Next month's EU summit in Copenhagen is due to decide whether or not to set a date for membership negotiations with Turkey, which is pushing for talks to start in 2003. Meanwhile in Athens, Greek Foreign Minister George Papandreou said at the weekend that the European Union would be making a "serious error" if it closed off the prospect of EU membership for Turkey. "The possibility of the adhesion of Turkey is a big challenge for Europe, and it would be a serious error if the great European experience is stopped geographically at the Balkans," Papandreou was quoted as saying Saturday, November 9, by the Greek news agency ANA. The Greek foreign minister said he disagreed with Giscard d'Estaing, the head of the Brussels-based convention on the future structure of the EU. Papandreou said Turkey's membership in the EU was of "vital importance" for Greece. He described Athens support for the membership of Turkey and Balkan countries as natural, as Germany supports the entry of Poland, the Czech Republic and the Baltic states. [snip] islamonline.net

To: tejek who wrote (254130)	10/8/2005 6:00:37 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570678

Re: Most Europeans are opposed to Turkey's admission to the EU. Granted, but most Europeans are unwilling to wage wars and crusades against Arab/Muslim countries all the same. Even Italians, Britons, Spaniards, Poles,... --whose governments sent troops to Iraq-- have demonstrated against the Iraq war and against their countries' alliance with the US in waging it. Europeans are resentful of Arab, African, Turkish immigration and willing to fix the "immigration problem" at home, but not abroad... What European public opinion failed to grasp about Turkey's EU bid is the impact it will have on future wars. Harnessing Turkey to the European Union will make it all the more difficult for Judeofascists to draw Europe into their Middle East crusades. Many European leaders keep bragging about the EU as the best, time-tested guarantee against future wars as if France, Germany, Britain, Italy,... could conceivably fight each other (militarily) in the foreseeable future. They simply miss the fact that European powers went to war over their empires --colonial empires, that is. Times have changed, as has geopolitics. Today's and future wars are much more likely to break out over the Israeli issue, Iran, Central Asia, and the Judeo-Christian-Muslim squall-line. European leaders ought to focus on THESE possible wars and the best course of action to defuse them, NOT on preventing, and bracing for, bygone world wars between European powers. Gus