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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (172134)	10/7/2005 1:58:57 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

No, I'm correct. What you stated in your original post was that IBM designed their PC in response to Apple being #1 which you attributed to the PARC derived technology. I'm not arguing that Steve got technology for the Lisa/Mac from PARC. What I'm pointing out is your timeline has a serious hole in it. The IBM PC was selling prior to the Mac. That fact does not support your claim that the IBM PC was developed as a result of Apples PARC technology. The only Apple success that fits your timeline would be an IBM reaction to the Apple II line which were non-windowed machines based on 6502 processors.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (172134)	10/7/2005 8:41:28 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 281500

>> It was the Apple II line, not the PARC influenced MAC line that had Apple at the lead in the very early days. Neolib is correct on this. Apple pretty much owned the entire PC market with the Apple II line prior to the Mac and the IBM PC's ever coming out. It was as much tiner market, with big corporations not using the Apple machines. Users of Apple II's were hobbyists and small businessmen. IBM PC's made it 'okay' for corporations to start using microcomputers - since they were from IBM and could be trusted. What used to crack me up as an early Mac adopter (128k Mac upgraded to 512k myself through a Dr. Dobb's article) was when the Mac came out, IBM poo-pooed the GUI and insisted the command-line driven interface was superior. Like Bush voters, most people bought the lie while behind the scenes Microsoft struggled to make Windows equal to the Mac. They managed to get close enough finally that all my machines are Wintelos today.