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To: TideGlider who wrote (706358)	10/7/2005 6:14:51 PM
From: trouthead	Respond to of 769668

Government is made up of people. If as a group they display the Ten Commandments, which is part of the Judeo/Christian religions, then they are practicing religion. They are the state, they are endorsing that religion and thereby establishing it as the state religion which goes against the constitution. If you can't see that this is a place where the two concepts run into each other I am sure that I haven't enough breath in my body to change your mind. All of the references to God in the Declaration of Independence are non-specific and could refer to anyones god. Since it's non-specific it does not endorse or establish one religion as the state religion. jb

To: TideGlider who wrote (706358)	10/7/2005 7:19:42 PM
From: BEEF JERKEY	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769668

You take a narrow interpretation of the Establishment clause to make your argument - you then take a broad interpretation to further your argument. You can't have it both ways. Its settled law. For 60 years no less. "Supreme Court interpretation of the Establishment Clause does not begin until 1947 in Everson v Board of Education. Voting 5 to 4, the Court upheld a state law that reimbursed parents for the cost of busing their children to parochial schools. (It was clear from the various opinions in Everson that if the state had reimbursed the parochial schools for the cost of providing the transportation, that it would have been found to violate the Establishment Clause.) Although in his majority opinion Justice Black wrote of the "wall of separation" that the Constitution maintains between church and state, Black viewed the aid in question of serving the state's secular interest in getting kids "safely and expeditiously" to schools. The case is noteworthy for its extensive discussion of the purposes of the Establishment Clause, and for the fact that all nine justices agree that the clause was intended to do far more than merely prohibit the establishment of a state religion. The only way to change is to put people who will deliberately misinterpret the constitution on the S.C.