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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (68088)	10/8/2005 11:10:35 AM
From: tonto	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Thank God you have nothing to do with our security. Just go after Osama and few top terrorists, is what I say.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (68088)	10/8/2005 1:10:06 PM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Re: "Your post labels entire nations with such a cultural history as terrorist. That is incorrect" Oh? Surely as you describe them as "people (who)...bow down and prefer to remain under the rule of a group of people who can come out the strongest PHYSICALLY," I feel I'm quite right. In fact the history of the nations of all the world might be described just as you've offered it up. Look at the oppression throughout history of the masses everywhere, and I still think I'm right, loosely but pointedly speaking. Dan B.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (68088)	10/8/2005 2:59:06 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 81568

Reasonable Democrats: Increasingly rare breed WorldNetDaily ^ \| 108/05 \| Henry Lamb It is quite amusing to watch Nancy Pelosi grab every possible opportunity to stand in front of a TV camera to bemoan what she calls the Republicans' "culture of corruption." Pelosi and the rest of the Democrat leadership are trying desperately to smear President Bush and the Republican party with charges of corruption in relation to the spurious allegations that Tom DeLay and Senator Bill Frist may have done something wrong. It's strange that during the Clinton years, Pelosi didn't say a thing about the "culture of corruption" that permeated the entire Clinton administration. In fact, the Democrat leadership made a point of standing for a photo op with the president who had defiled the White House with his sexcapades and lied under oath to a grand jury and to the American people. Where was the outcry about the "culture of corruption" surrounding Hillary's campaign financing in 2000? Where was the outcry about the "culture of corruption" surrounding Enron's influence over the Commerce Department's support for the horrendous fraud that ultimately toppled the company? Where was the outcry about the last-minute pardons or any of the events in one of the nation's most scandal-ridden, corrupt administration? The same Democrat leaders who now bay like Georgia hounds about allegations of corruption were then silent in the face of genuine corruption. What hypocrisy! The Democrat leadership has no agenda other than bashing President Bush and all Republicans. Their strategy seems to be that if they can sling enough mud at the Republicans, they will regain control of the government by default. Fortunately, not all Democrats are cast in the same mold as their current leadership. The nation benefits when different philosophies and conflicting ideas meet in honest debate, where resolution is the result of compromise and a final public vote. The recent passage of the Threatened and Endangered Species Recovery Act provides a great example of how Democrats and Republicans can disagree, respectfully, and still produce a policy result that is acceptable to proponents on both sides of the argument. The bill was co-sponsored by Republican Rep. Richard Pombo, and Democrat Rep. Dennis Cardoza, both from California. On final passage (229-193), 36 Democrats voted for the bill, and 34 Republicans voted against it. Throughout the floor debate, members of Congress on both sides expressed appreciation to their opponents for the civility of the debate and the spirit of compromise that prevailed as the bill made its way through committee and to ultimate passage. When good ideas are ignored simply because they come from a member of the opposite party, America is the loser. When the quest for power supersedes the quest for good public policy, the power seekers betray the trust of their electors – and should be replaced. With elections barely a year away, the Democrat leadership appears to have little thought about good public policy. Instead, their only focus appears to be bashing everything Republican. Major policy questions must be addressed during the remaining months of this congressional session. Congress must increase access to energy resources and remove the unnecessary regulatory obstacles to building new refineries and new power plants. Congress must decide the nation's appropriate role in rebuilding the Gulf Coast. Congress must deal with the crucial constitutional question of when it may be appropriate for the federal government to take control from state and local government in response to crises, whether natural or man-made. And there is a war under way – that must be won. If the Democrat leadership is, in fact, the "loyal" opposition, they have a duty to participate in civil debate on all these issues. Nancy Pelosi's boycott of the Katrina inquiry and the rush by the Democrat leadership to blame Bush for all that went wrong in Katrina's aftermath illustrate the difference between "loyal" opposition and opportunistic obstructionists whose quest is regaining power. The people who elected the Democrat leadership -- and all Americans -- deserve better representation. There are many responsible Democrats who really want to participate in the process, not obstruct it. These are the people voters should find, between now and the next election. After all, it is the voters who determine the quality of leadership in Congress.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (68088)	10/8/2005 3:21:48 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 81568

China: New Political Push to Control Catholic Church Catholic Exchange ^ \| October 8, 2005 The government-controlled Catholic Patriotic Association has launched a nationwide campaign to reassert control over the Catholic Church, the AsiaNews service reports. AsiaNews reports that the general secretary of the Patriotic Association, Liu Bainian, was primarily responsible for preventing Chinese bishops from traveling to Rome to participate in this month's Synod of Bishops, and is now blocking new candidates for episcopal office. The Patriotic Association is trying to strengthen its grip on the "official" Catholic Church, fearing that the country's Catholic leaders are growing too close to Rome. The Patriotic Association is reacting to recent developments that indicated cooperation between the Beijing government and the Holy See. In recent weeks two new bishops who were selected by the Vatican have been appointed for the "official" (that is, government-recognized) Church. The Patriotic Association, which was set up by Mao Xedong to ensure political control over Catholic affairs, insists that it should clear all epicopal appointments. When Pope Benedict XVI (bio - news) made a new gesture to the "official" Church, apponting 4 Chinese bishops to participate in the Synod of Bishops, Liu Bainian complained that the Pontiff was being disrespectul, arguing that the Patriotic Association should name its own representatives to the Synod. The bishops named by Pope Benedict were unable to obtain visas to travel to Rome for the Synod.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (68088)	10/8/2005 3:22:22 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 81568

Asia News - Source Article Sources in China have confirmed to AsiaNews that the CCPA’s general secretary Liu Bainian has organised meetings with priests in diocese in Sichuan and Guangdong provinces in order to remind them that they owe allegiance to China and not the Vatican, in particular when it comes to picking candidates for bishop. The decision to bar four bishops invited by Benedict XVI to attend the current Synod on the Eucharist is said to be part of this campaign. The candidates to the posts of Auxiliary Bishop of Shanghai and Coadjutor Bishop of Xian who were picked in recent months were designated and selected by the Holy See with the tacit consent of the Chinese government. Soon after the consecration of Mgr Joseph Xing Wenzhi as Bishop of Shanghai, the CCPA tried to deny that any de facto agreement between the Holy See and the government existed; instead, it claimed that it had made the decision in full autonomy. According to the CCPA’s own rules, Bishops must be elected by priests and representatives of the diocesan community. Once appointed they must uphold the “three autonomies”, namely autonomy in management, financing and organisation as well as remain independent of the Holy See. The CCPA was set up by express order of Mao Zedong to control the Church (and its internal activities such as education, publishing, staffing, financing and episcopal appointments). Although it is not a religious organisation, it acts as a watchdog over the Church on behalf of the Communist Party. In the last ten years, a rapprochement between the bishops of the official Church and the Holy See has been underway—now more than 85 per cent of all prelates are reconciled with the Pope. This signals the failure of the autonomy policy the CCPA has backed since 1957. Even a rapprochement between the People’s Republic and the Vatican is seen as a danger to the organisation which remains staffed by atheists with a foot in the country’s Stalinist and radical past. After the Vatican made public the list of participants to the Synod on the Eucharist, Liu Bainian complained about the Vatican’s lack of courtesy, claiming that the invitation should have first gone to the CCPA and the CCPA-controlled Council of Chinese Bishops. However, many bishops have asked the government to free them from CCPA oversight and allow them to take responsibility for their own communities in their relations with the government.