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To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 5:49:37 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Sandy BURGLAR vouches for Clinton. Hilarious.

The Smithsonian will have a display of Sandy Burglar's underwear.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 5:52:47 AM
From: paret  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769669
 
Hmmmm.... Who are we going to believe Sandy Burglar or Louis Freeh?



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 5:53:37 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Its just laughable to see a burglar lecture Louis Freeh about ethics and truth.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 5:55:50 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Commie CBS will run Berger's "denial" and not mention his recent conviction......? LOL.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 5:56:13 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Commie CBS will run Berger's "denial" and not mention his recent conviction......? LOL.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 5:57:57 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
"Sandy" Burglar was a great choice to defend the ex-liar-in-chief. ROFLMAO



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 5:59:10 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
A Fraudster On The Fraudster Network.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 5:59:48 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Great choice - use somebody that is currently violating their parole order as a character witness.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 6:00:28 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Probably the only one the friggin' traitor could get to lie for him on camera



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 6:01:12 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Did 60 ask the Saudis?.........



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 6:02:50 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Bubba's team is Stuck On Stupid if they think anyone will believe Sandy Burglar.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 6:04:32 AM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769669
 
That's like putting on Spiro Agnew to rebuff watergate charges against Nixon.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 6:06:47 AM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769669
 
So we could assume that from now on sixty "despicable" minutes will give people rebuttal time from the schmear campaign they do every week.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 6:08:53 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
So, we have a man who has been proven as a matter of scientific test to be a liar [Clinton],

defended by a man who pled guilty to stealing state secrets, on an issue involving state secrets [Sandy Berger],

on a network program [CBS--60 Minutes]that has tried to throw the last election with counterfeit documents.

And they are all Democrats.

Does it get any more surreal than this?



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 6:37:58 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Sandy Burglar and Slick Willie both have a problem with what's in their pants.
What a hoot to have the Burgler defend el Slickster.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 7:19:48 AM
From: GROUND ZERO™  Respond to of 769669
 
It was Burger before the burglary, it has now been changed to a more appropriate name, i.e., Burglar...

GZ



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 12:14:49 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Bill Clinton Caught Again
News Max ^ | October 9, 2005 | Staff

Either Bill Clinton is not telling the truth now about the terrorist threat posed by Iraq during his administration - or he fibbed to the American people while he was in the White House.

Clinton recently told his former staffer-turned TV commentator George Stephanopoulos that the U.S. government had "no evidence that there were any weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq.

But a recent report in the The Weekly Standard headlined "Clinton Revisionism" unmasks Clinton's flip-flops over the Iraq weapons of mass destruction issue.

For example, during an appearance on "Larry King Live" back in July 2003, the former president said:

"When I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for."

In October of that year, six months after the war ended, Clinton discussed Iraq with Portuguese Prime Minister Jose Manuel Durao Barroso.

Barroso said: "When Clinton was here recently he told me he was absolutely convinced, given his years in the White House and the access to privileged information which he had, that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction until the end of the Saddam regime."

Last month Clinton discussed the Iraq war with Wolf Blitzer and told him: "I never thought it had much to do with the war on terror."

But in a February 1998 speech warning of an "unholy axis" of terrorists and rogue states, Clinton stated: "There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein's Iraq."

That summer six senior Clinton officials accused Iraq of providing chemical weapons expertise to al-Qaida in Sudan.

The Clinton administration cited this link to justify the destruction of a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan supposedly involved in the production of chemical weapons.

The Standard concludes: "Clinton's revisionism is hardly surprising. He has his wife's future in an increasingly anti-war Democratic Party to worry about."



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 12:31:19 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769669
 
Sandy Burglar has already shown he will lie and steal for Clinton.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 12:35:59 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769669
 
A sweating, dishevelled Sandy Burglar sitting on a tall bar stool. When it comes time to read his statement, he reaches down into his pants and pulls out a sheet of paper and begins to read. When that page is finished he rips it into small pieces and eats it, then proceeds to pull the next page out of his socks and he repeats the performance. When he is through, police break into the room and put handcuffs on him and frog march him out of the studio.

Don't miss it--60 minutes, tonight.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 12:46:51 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769669
 
Odd that CBS didn't give President Bush a similar opportunity to deny charges made against him in the Dan Blather forgery disaster for 60 Minutes.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 12:48:36 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Sandy Berger is a real 'pantload'.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 12:49:03 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769669
 
Mr. Clinton...There is no one left to lie.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 12:50:28 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
It's like having "Chester the Molester" vouch for your character.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 12:51:27 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769669
 
The Clinton Crud Machine is alive and well. And, of course, it will be a retort by Sandy Bugger, the con scam man.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 12:53:11 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769669
 
Why doesn't CBS insist that the cowardly Clintons respond themselves instead of the same tired old discredited flunkies that were either on their payroll or subjected to some sort of blackmail to keep them in line.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 12:56:02 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
The Clintons couldn't have picked a more appropriate spokesman.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 12:58:48 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
My FBI by Louis Freeh is up to #11 on Amazon.com .



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 12:59:26 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
I find it amazing that the Clintons would pick this turd to speak for them. They must not think he's damaged goods.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 1:01:00 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Louis Freeh's new book: My FBI : Bringing Down the Mafia, Investigating Bill Clinton, and Fighting the War on Terror



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 1:01:39 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769669
 
Who to believe, the head of the FBI or the clintons...that's a toughie.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 1:04:19 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
60 minutes DID NOT provide a response from team Bush while it paraded Clark, Wilson et al and their anti-Bush books during last years campaign.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 2:47:33 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769669
 
Clinton Dispatches Document Thief to Rebut Freeh
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Newsmax.com ^ | 10/9/05 |

Ex-president Bill Clinton has dispatched convicted national security document thief Sandy Berger to rebut bombshell charges from former FBI Director Louis Freeh set to air on CBS's "60 Minutes" tonight.

The Washington Post reports that producers came under "strong pressure from former president Bill Clinton's advisers" to allow Berger to respond to Freeh's claim that Clinton shook down Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah for a contribution to his presidential library after promising to go soft on the Khobar Towers bombing probe.

In a statement to be read on-air after Freeh details his allegations, Berger claims he was at the meeting and then insists: "The president strongly raised the need for Saudi officials to cooperate with us on the investigation into the attack on Khobar Towers at the time when the FBI was attempting to gain access to the suspects. The president did not raise in any fashion the issue of his library."

In April, Berger pled guilty to stealing and destroying top secret national security documents from the National Archives while helping Mr. Clinton prepare for his testimony before the 9/11 Commission.

He also admitted that he lied last year when he first called the crime "an honest mistake."

He was sentenced on Sept. 8 to two years probation and fined $50,000.

Just two days later, however - Berger was in legal hot water again, after Virginia highway cops clocked him doing 88-miles-per-hour in a 55-mile zone.

He was charged with reckless driving: a Class 1 misdemeanor in Virginia that carries a penalty of up to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

Appearing in court this past Wednesday, Berger was warned by U.S. District Magistrate Deborah Robinson that his sentence in the theft case could also be expanded because he had violated the terms of his probation.

Perhaps realizing that Berger's checkered past impaired his credibility as a character witness for Mr. Clinton, Clinton spokesman Jay Carson told CBS that he has accounts from five other former officials who received briefings on the Clinton-Abdullah meeting and who back Mr. Clinton's denial.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 2:49:43 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769669
 
Burglar, Clinton's criminal stooge, who has as much credibility as the criminal Clinton himself, sent to rebuff ANYTHING about Clinton???



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 2:51:26 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769669
 
Clinton skeletons burst out of cupboard unlocked by the FBI
UK Times ^ | Oct. 8, 2005 | Tim Reid

IN THE summer of 1998, as the Monica Lewinsky scandal closed in around him, Bill Clinton was hosting an official White House dinner when he told his guests he needed to visit the bathroom.

Excusing himself, he left the table. But, unknown to his guests, he walked in humiliated fury not to the bathroom, but to the White House Map Room. Waiting for him were FBI doctors and a federal prosecutor, there to take his blood sample to see of it matched the DNA on Ms Lewinsky’s now infamous semen-stained dress.

This extraordinary episode, which remained secret until yesterday, is recounted in an explosive new book by Louis Freeh, the FBI Director during the 1990s.

Mr Freeh writes for the first time about his appalling relationship with the President who appointed him, and the endless stream of scandals that made Mr Clinton the constant target of FBI investigations.

“The problem was with Bill Clinton — the scandals and the rumoured scandals, the incubating ones and the dying ones never ended,” Mr Freeh writes in My FBI: Bringing Down the Mafia, Investigating Bill Clinton, and Fighting the War on Terror.

“Whatever moral compass the President was consulting was leading him in the wrong direction. His closets were full of skeletons just waiting to burst out. We were preoccupied in eight years with multiple investigations.” The scandals included the Whitewater inquiry and Mr Clinton’s affairs with Ms Lewinsky, Paula Jones and Gennifer Flowers.

The need to obtain Mr Clinton’s blood sample was the most unsavoury element of the FBI’s investigation of the Lewinsky saga, Mr Freeh says.

The White House intern, whose affair with Mr Clinton led to impeachment proceedings, had kept a Gap dress stained with his “genetic material” as proof of their relationship. She later revealed its existence to Kenneth Starr, the independent counsel investigating the former President. The dinner party subterfuge was “like a bad movie”, Mr Freeh writes. “But we did it, very carefully, very confidentially.”

John Harris, a Washington Post reporter, provides more detail about the Map Room encounter in his biography of Mr Clinton, The Survivor.

“Clinton’s face was flushed with anger as he rolled up his sleeve while one of his Navy physicians drew the sample. A prosecutor and federal agent fixed their gaze on the vial the entire time, fearful that Clinton’s team might try a surreptitious switch.” Such was the mutual distrust between Mr Starr and Mr Clinton that the former President’s lawyer ordered a second blood sample in case Mr Starr resorted to dirty tricks, according to Mr Harris.

Mr Freeh also writes of a conversation between Mr Clinton and Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia in the aftermath of the Khobar Towers bombing that killed 19 US servicemen in Dhahran in 1996. He claims that Mr Clinton used the occasion to solicit a donation for his presidential library.

Mr Freeh says that Mr Clinton refused to insist that the Crown Prince allow the FBI to question suspects held in custody in Saudi Arabia. “Bill Clinton raised the subject only to tell the Crown Prince he understood the Saudis’ reluctance to co-operate and then he hit Abdullah up for a contribution to the Clinton Presidential Library.”

Newt Gingrich, the former Republican House Speaker and erstwhile Clinton nemesis, said on the Fox television network: “If Louis Freeh is prepared to swear on oath that he knows that President Clinton was asking foreign leaders for money . . . this has to be a criminal offence of the first order.”

Mr Freeh was appointed by Mr Clinton in 1993, but relations between the two became poisoned. Mr Freeh writes that to distance himself from the scandals, he refused a White House pass that would have allowed him access without signing in. “I wanted all my visits to be official,” he said.

They clashed repeatedly, including over an FBI inquiry into alleged Chinese efforts to funnel campaign donations to Democrats, an inquiry that Mr Freeh never told Mr Clinton about. Mr Clinton soon referred to the FBI chief as “F****** Freeh”, seeing him as an agent for the Republicans.

Mr Freeh resigned from the FBI in 2001, three months before the September 11 terrorist attacks. He was harshly criticised by the commission that investigated the atrocity.

Jay Carson, Mr Clinton’s spokesman, said: “This is clearly a total work of fiction, written by a man who’s desperate to clear his name. It’s unfortunate that he’d stoop to this level in his desperate attempt to rewrite history. Freeh’s claims about library fundraising are more untruths from a book that’s chock-full of them.”

Daniel Benjamin, a former Clinton aide, said that the former President “pushed the Crown Prince quite hard” over the Khobar Towers investigation, and won Saudi co-operation that led to indictments.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 2:53:59 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
I love the fact that felonious Sandy Burglar is brought in to vouch for Clinton - like he has any credibility at all!



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 2:55:45 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769669
 
Only in America could you disgrace your nation so badly, be arguably one of the worst leaders of our country, and still make hundreds of thousands giving speeches to a bunch of idiots.



To: hdl who wrote (706527)10/9/2005 10:34:43 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 769669
 
Ex-FBI Chief On Clinton's Scandals
Oct. 6, 2005

When President Bill Clinton appointed Louis Freeh director of the FBI, he called Freeh “a law enforcement legend.”

And Freeh spent a controversial eight years as director before he left in June, 2001. But the 9/11 plot was hatched on his watch and he has been criticized by the 9/11 commission for not having his agents more focused on counterterrorism.

But it also turns out that no FBI director had a more strained relationship with the president who had appointed him, than did Louis Freeh with Clinton.

As FBI Director, Freeh rarely sat down one-on-one with reporters. But now he’s written a book, My FBI, and speaks out for the first time about his years as director, and his toxic relationship with Bill Clinton.

Here’s how he wrote about the former president:

“The problem was with Bill Clinton, the scandals and rumored scandals, the incubating ones and the dying ones never ended. Whatever moral compass the president was consulting was leading him in the wrong direction. His closets were full of skeletons just waiting to burst out.”

Freeh says he was preoccupied for eight years with multiple investigations, including Whitewater, Jennifer Flowers and the Monica Lewinsky affair.

He found it deeply awkward and frustrating to be constantly investigating his boss and says it became ‘theater of the absurd’ when special prosecutor Ken Starr asked him to get a DNA sample from the president to compare with that notorious stain on Lewinsky’s dress.

Freeh says the entire scenario of getting a blood sample from the president was like a bad movie.

“Well, we went over to the White House. We did it very carefully, very confidentially,” remembers Freeh. The president was attending a scheduled dinner and pretended he had to go to the bathroom. Instead, Clinton went to a room where the FBI had people waiting to take his blood.

Freeh thought Clinton disgraced the presidency; Clinton felt Freeh was out to get him, and that Freeh was an insufferable Boy Scout.

As FBI director, Freeh operated strictly by the book and annoyed the president in his first week on the job when he returned his White House pass after learning the president was under investigation for Whitewater.

“The implications of a White House pass would mean I could go in and out of the building any time I wanted without really being recorded as a visitor,” explains Freeh, adding “I wanted all my visits to be official. When I sent the pass back with a note, I had no idea it would antagonize the president. I found out years later that it did.”

We were told that relations between the two men had deteriorated so badly, that former Chief of Staff John Podesta says Clinton always referred to the FBI director as ‘Effing’ Freeh.

“Well you know, I don’t know how they referred to me and I really didn’t care. My role and my obligation was to conduct criminal investigations. He, unfortunately for the country and unfortunately for him, happened to be the subject of that investigation,” says Freeh.

Freeh says he stayed on longer as FBI director because he didn’t want to give Clinton a chance to name his successor. “I was concerned about who he would put in there as FBI director because he had expressed antipathy for the FBI, for the director. I was going to stay there and make sure that he couldn’t replace me.”

Freeh had another reason for wanting to outlast Clinton. It was the 1996 Khobar Towers terrorist attack in Saudi Arabia, where 19 U.S. servicemen died and more than 370 were wounded.

President Clinton had sent the FBI to investigate and promised Americans that those responsible would pay. “The cowards who committed this murderous act must not go unpunished. Let me say it again: we will pursue this. America takes care of our own. Those who did it must not go unpunished,” the president said.

But Freeh says the President failed to keep his promise.

The FBI wanted access to the suspects the Saudis had arrested but then-Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar said the only way to get access to prisoners would be if the president personally asked the crown prince for access.

Freeh says Clinton did not help him. He writes in his book:

“Bill Clinton raised the subject only to tell the crown prince that he understood the Saudi’s reluctance to cooperate, and then he hit Abdullah up for a contribution to the Clinton Presidential Library.”

“That’s a fact that I’m reporting,” says Freeh.

It’s a strong charge. And 60 Minutes wanted Mr. Clinton’s side of all this. He declined to talk to 60 Minutes, but told his spokesman to say: "The assertion that he asked the Saudis for funding for his library while he was president is absolutely false."

And Clinton’s former national security advisor, Sandy Berger, told us that Mr. Clinton did press the Saudis to cooperate with the FBI.

Freeh says to get access to the Saudis’ suspects, he eventually sought help from another president, the first President Bush. “Former President Bush, at my request interceded with the Saudis, spoke to Crown Prince, now King Abdullah, asked for his assistance and it happened just like that.”

The FBI concluded that Iran had orchestrated the Khobar attack, but Freeh said the White House did not want to pursue the prosecution, because Iran had just elected a new president and Clinton hoped to improve relations with Iran.

“I was very disappointed that the political leadership of the United States would tell the families of these 19 heroes that we were going to leave no stone unturned and find the people who killed them, to give that order to the director, because that’s the order that I got, and then to do nothing to assist and facilitate that investigation. In fact to undermine it,” says Freeh.

But he kept his fury private.

Why didn’t Freeh go public at the time? “I had a better response. What I said is, ‘This is too damn important to me to stop investigating it.’ And I didn’t stop investigating it. I waited for a change of administration, which happened when this President Bush was elected.”

And with the new president’s approval on Freeh’s last day as FBI director, he announced indictments of those responsible for the Khobar attack, but they’re still overseas and out of America’s reach.

Freeh told us that in 1993, after the first World Trade Center bombing, he realized the U.S. was in a global war with terrorists.

But then, after Al Qaeda terrorists blew a hole in the U.S.S. Cole and demolished two U.S. Embassies in East Africa, and America did little to retaliate and Freeh writes how frustrated that made him because he believes that not retaliating only encouraged more attacks.

In his book, he writes “America seemed like a lumbering giant stumbling around with a sign on its back reading ‘Kick me.”

He says the U.S. response to the attempted assassination of the first President Bush by the Iraqi intelligence service was also inadequate.

“We sent a missile into Iraqi intelligence headquarters in Baghdad after working hours. So, we were targeting the custodial staff and not the agents who had tried to kill the president,” says Freeh.

He also says the United States lacked the political will and spine to take military action against enemies, because the country was not on a war footing.

The 9/11 Commission had some stinging criticism of Freeh’s FBI, saying that though he had made counterterrorism the top priority in 1998, he never shifted manpower accordingly.

“Well, what they’re referring to there is the fact that when Congress appropriates FBI resources, particularly FBI agents, the Congress dictates where those people are assigned,” explains Freeh, adding that he couldn’t assign his own people to the jobs that he felt were most important.

But he acknowledged he could have shifted more agents to counterterrorism, if he had just asked Congress for permission.

On September 11, six percent of FBI personnel were working on counterterrorism, while twice as many agents were assigned to drug enforcement.

“Because that was where the country was focused. The country was not focused on terrorism before September 11th,” says Freeh.

And he blames Congress for not giving him the money and manpower he’d been asking for counterterrorism prior to 9/11.

“We never had the resources that we requested to do the job. Let me give you an example. In the year 2000, fiscal year, which was the last fiscal year that would’ve made a difference before September 11th, I asked for 894 counter terrorism positions. I got five. I asked for $381 million counter terrorism money, new money. I got $7.4 million.”

About the FBI’s computer system, Freeh writes “We were in the dark ages,” and says the average 12-year-old sitting at a desktop PC on the evening of September 10th, 2001 had more computer power at his fingertips than almost any FBI agent had at his work station.

“It’s a pathetic record of funding for a program,” says Freeh, saying it is not just his record but also the record of Congress and the justice department.

Congress did not trust Freeh with more money for computers because legislators felt he had squandered money he had received for other computer programs. And as for 9/11, the justice department joined the chorus condemning Freeh’s computers.

The Department of Justice report said, “The FBI’s computer problems prevented agents from connecting the dots before 9/11. Dots that if connected might have prevented the attacks.”

Freeh says, “Collecting intelligence information is like trying to drink water out of a fire hydrant. You know, in hindsight it’s great. The problem is there’s a million dots at the time.”

But forget about connecting the dots. Louis Freeh made the surprising revelation that even if the FBI had known that al Qaeda wanted to hijack U.S. planes and fly them into American buildings, the U.S. probably could not have stopped it from happening.

“That’s a very, very strong possibility,” says Freeh. “For instance, if we had information that al Qaeda operatives were going to hijack planes, then turn them into missiles not in the context of tactical intelligence, which means Mike Wallace is going to get on board flight 462 tomorrow and hijack a plane. That’s tactical intelligence. We didn’t have that. But if we had intelligence that al Qaeda cells were going to hijack planes, fly them into buildings. Ask yourself in hindsight, you know, what would the United States have been able to do with that information? We could have hardened some of our airports. We could have put in better security. Would we spend the billions of dollars, billions of dollars that we’ve spent since 9/11 to protect our aircraft, just our aircraft? Would anybody have shut down the airways? Would the President of the United States have said ‘I’ve got that intelligence, it’s very dangerous. We’ll stop flying planes.’ Will we stop flying them for an hour, for a day for two days?”

“I think honestly, most people would say I’m not sure that we could have done anything effective, since we didn’t have the will power to do it at the time,” says Freeh.

And Freeh told Wallace the question now is: "Do we have the will and the courage to keep going after terrorists before and after attacks, in a war that has no real end?"

cbsnews.com