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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dan B. who wrote (68131)	10/9/2005 1:24:32 PM
From: Orcastraiter	Respond to of 81568

Clearly Rove and Libby walked the edge of decency. Apparently Rove did not tell the president everything, and soon we will know the whole picture regarding Plame gate. Part of your problem is that you see these guys as altruistic Americans. The only thing they are true to is the corporate world. One has to wonder about the threat to veto the provision in the defense bill which demanded decent treatment for detainees. And the statements by republicans in the Senate clearly uncovered that torture is being used now. Poor Ms. England who was made a scapegoat...while following the directives...right from the top. Imagine threatening to veto the defense bill...just to maintain the status quo for torture??? Message 21767280 Opposing the effort, Sen. Ted Stevens (news, bio, voting record), R-Alaska, said that requiring all U.S. troops to follow procedures in the Army manual is not practical in the current war environment. "The techniques very upon the circumstances and the physical location of people involved," he said. Orca

To: Dan B. who wrote (68131)	10/9/2005 11:46:13 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Newsmax and Drudge have a history of fabricating stories, which means deliberately lying, just like their heros GW and Dick. Newsmax's editor appear on rightwing radio and promises to "destroy" the reputation of specific Democrats, regardless of whether or not the Newsmax smears are in any way factual or not. They don't need facts, they have no scruples about inventing smears. That ir immoral and should be illegal. Newsmax and Drudge both invented tons of phony smears about Kerry, some about the Clintons and therefore they are discredited. Salon.com does not invent anything. Neither does rawstory They take journalistic integrity seriously. Big difference.