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To: abuelita who wrote (47374)	10/9/2005 9:38:54 PM
From: Crocodile	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 104155

that's the one! yep..you plant those along your back fence and you won't see anyone hopping it a year or two from now... guaranteed. (o: when i prune that particular rose, i always wear thick gloves a thick hat, and a pair of goggles... (i'm not joking about this, btw)! Another rose that i like very much is the rugosa -- Delicata. beautiful shade of pink and it is also as tough as nails in our climate. has tons of nice flowers all summer long. most of the roses i've grown here are old varieties... moss roses, etc... i used to order about 4 or 5 roses from the heritage rose part of Pickering Nursery's catalogue each year. haven't done that for a few years now though. ~croc

To: abuelita who wrote (47374)	10/9/2005 9:49:20 PM
From: Crocodile	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 104155

rose~ just came across something interesting. landscape rose cane hardiness charts based on studies in Minnesota. extension.umn.edu quite interesting. i just checked through the varieties and see quite a few that grow here or that i've tried over the years. the survivors are definitely in that group that rate about 8 to 10 on the charts. i see quite a few of my failures down in the lower ratings. might just take a look through the chart and order a couple of new bushes for next spring. ~croc